Speaker 1: 0:00

Hi, I'm Shelly Maurer and I'm Cher Emrick. Welcome to Life.

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Lessons from Pickleball where we engage with pickleball players from around the world about life on and off the court.

Speaker 1: 0:12

Thanks for joining us. Hi everyone, Welcome to Life Lessons from Pickleball. We have a real treat today. We have Ed Beezer as our guest. Ed, you started Beezer Sports and you're the inventor of the Beezer Ball.

Speaker 3: 0:30

Before we talk about what is a Beezer Ball, Ed, let's start by you telling us about your professional career in the restaurant coffee shop business.

Speaker 4: 0:39

You bet I, you know. I started off in restaurants back when I was 15 years old as a dishwasher and just worked my way up to becoming a district manager for a regional pizza chain. And then, back in 1994, I got a phone call from this little coffee company that I never heard of called Starbucks Coffee.

Speaker 4: 1:00

And I go what's a Starbucks here? I am in Utah, there was no Starbucks here, so I'd never been to one. And you know, I did some questions. I asked him I go, what's it all about? And they told me I go, people are paying $5 for a cup of coffee. I go, you're crazy. And they said they, they go, no, come, come out, fly out and we'll show you a Starbucks. And so they flew me out and California and I saw people lined out the door and I went they've got something here. I go, I'm in.

Speaker 4: 1:28

And I joined them right away. I did a few interviews and everything and they made me an offer and I said, absolutely, I'll come work with you guys. And then when they first hired me, they asked me to go to Atlanta, which I did. And then they made an announcement that they were going to open up Starbucks in Utah and would any district manager like to open the market? And I said, hey, I'm from Utah. So I interviewed again and they selected me to come back home and I got to bring my job with me. I got to bring Starbucks with me and I came back here and opened up the first 10 stores here.

Speaker 1: 2:02

Oh, that's brilliant yeah.

Speaker 4: 2:04

And it was a great experience. I mean, I learned so much from Starbucks. I mean, it was just a great company and back then they were still fairly small. I think they had like 4,000 stores, three or four, which is still huge, but nothing like they are right now. So it was still, you know, it was still great. I got to work with different department heads and vice presidents, and even I even got to go to lunch with Howard Schultz, the who, who had the visionary behind all that, which I probably could never get ahold of him nowadays, but it was really great.

Speaker 1: 2:30

That is so cool, Wow, that little tiny coffee shop Starbucks yeah.

Speaker 4: 2:39

I was. I was blown away. I go five bucks for a cup of coffee. You're crazy.

Speaker 1: 2:42

But pretty cool to be on the ground floor like that, yeah.

Speaker 3: 2:45

Well, and then you went on to start your own coffee shop. Is that right?

Speaker 4: 2:49

I did, uh, after being with Starbucks for about eight years, um, I, I I just said you know, I, when I got a little tired of working, you know, for somebody else and, um, all the hours and even the travel, and so, um, I just decided to go out on my own and started my own coffee shop here in Salt Lake and it was called Just Add Coffee and we had that. We opened in 2002 and had that for about 10 years and then I left there and kind of semi-retired after that.

Speaker 1: 3:21

What fun. Well we love coffee, so we're delighted that you have that background. So how did you go from coffee to pickleball, how were you introduced to pickleball and what was going on in your life at the time?

Speaker 4: 3:36

It was actually and I've never shared this on this kind of a platform before. I mean, people that know me know my story, but I'm actually a recovering alcoholic and about six or seven years ago I was actually in a residential treatment center and as part of their recreation therapy they introduced us to pick a ball, and so I'd never heard of pick a ball before either, and so they showed us how to play it. They gave us paddles and balls and it was a little awkward at first but you know, after doing it for a few weeks, you know we played like once a week and I started picking it up and I just said this is a lot of fun and just got into it that way Didn't really catch the real passion bug for it for a couple more years. So about four years ago I really the bug really took hold and I started playing all the time like four or five, six times a week, two, three hours a day.

Speaker 4: 4:35

It was and it's been. It's been great. I mean, I got it. I'm I'm probably in the best you know physical shape that I've been in in decades. I go to the doctor and he takes my pulse and he goes your pulse is 60. I go well, that's because I'm out running around every day, so it's been great.

Speaker 1: 4:52

First, I just want to honor you for being in recovery. Thank you, congratulations, and it sounds like pickleball was helpful.

Speaker 4: 5:02

Very helpful. There's so many aspects of pickleball was helpful, very helpful I it. There's so many aspects of pickleball that align themselves with recovery. Um, I, I didn't really realize it at first till actually I sat, I started playing a lot more when I got out of recovery or out of my treatment center and I started to realize the lessons they taught us in there align with pickleball, for example.

Speaker 4: 5:23

Um, well, first of all, to play, you've got to get out of your living environment, out of your home, and go to somewhere and play, and that gets you out of where you are. And because isolation is deadly for alcoholics and so sitting and just isolating is is is horrible. So this gets you out, doing something. Um, um, of course, the physical aspect of it as well. That's why so many treatment centers have made it, you know, have recreation therapy as part of their therapy, and then the, the, they teach you in recovery about mindfulness. So you're not, they try to get you so you're not dwelling on the past so much or dreading the future so much, because that's also that mind uh, uh, set is just not great for someone in recovery as well.

Speaker 4: 6:06

But when you're playing pickleball, as you guys know, you have to be in the moment you're present you you're just focused on hitting that little ball and and and and having just fun. So it's it's great for that aspect. And then just the community part and the connection part is is huge. Um, and that's a big part of recovery too is building that community and building that connection. And right now I've met so many wonderful people playing this sport and in between games we sit and we talk and we chat, we share ideas, we share what's going on in your life, what's going on Today. I can walk over to my park where I play and there'll be at least a dozen people.

Speaker 1: 6:46

Hey, Ed, how's?

Speaker 4: 6:47

it going? How's that Beezer thing going? They know what I've been up to and they know me by name or where have you been? We haven't seen you for a few weeks. It's this great community. I feel like I belong, and that's another thing that people in recovery really need. They need to feel that connection, they need to feel that connection.

Speaker 1: 7:08

They need to feel like they belong somewhere and that they're not just out there by themselves. That is cool. It occurs to me that aa and all should come up with. You know groups to get together to play pickleball yeah it's great to to share stories and all at meetings and all, but what about actually getting together on the court and playing with each other and having that adrenaline and endorphins and all that fun connection Is that happening?

Speaker 4: 7:34

As far as I know, it's not specific for pickleball. I know they have things like sober softball leagues that are out there that get people engaged as well, and I promote it wherever I can whenever I do run at other. I still have some friends that are in recovery or work at the recovery center. In fact, I just bumped into one at the the the PPA was just here or in Salt Lake city and there was a guy playing pick like hey, I know you and he goes and he goes, yeah, and we just kind of shared stories. But he goes, yeah, I, he goes. I still like I helped teach pickleball at the recovery center and people know your story. So you need to come out and talk to us. And I said, absolutely, sign me up and I'm just waiting to hear back where I'm, you know when I can go do a presentation to it and where I can share my story with some of the people that are still in recovery there.

Speaker 3: 8:25

Yeah, Cause one of the other points that you had made that you haven't mentioned yet is the how important the support and the reinforcement is.

Speaker 4: 8:32

Absolutely.

Speaker 3: 8:33

So much of that on the pickleball court and from our pickleball buddies.

Speaker 4: 8:36

Oh, absolutely. I mean, that's another aspect of it as well. I mean, when you're playing, as you guys know, if you make a bad shot, your teammates are going to go oh, that was so close, or almost. Or when you make a great shot, they go way to go, partner, way to go. Hey, that's my partner, that's my buddy. And if you get a little out of control, they go, hey, calm down, relax, we got this, we got this. So you're constantly building each other up while you're on the court and getting that instant support from your teammate, and that's another great aspect of it as well.

Speaker 1: 9:10

I actually love it. My experience is, even the opponents compliment each other right. Exactly the shot that I miscompleted. Great shot, oh yeah.

Speaker 4: 9:21

I mean two weeks ago I made an ATP and the guys on the other side stopped and clapped and go.

Speaker 1: 9:26

we're not worthy so for those who don't know what an ATP is, tell what.

Speaker 4: 9:33

Okay, sorry, yeah, when you hit a shot around the pole, which they abbreviate, just called ATP, and by doing that you are out of bounds and you're hitting the ball back inbounds on the opponent's side, and if you hit it right it's almost unstoppable and it's a hard shot to make. The conditions have to be just right so it doesn't happen on a regular basis. So, like I said when I did it, they just stopped and dropped their paddles and I kind of was a little embarrassed. Regular basis so, um, like I said when I did it, it just they just stopped and dropped their paddles and I just, you know, I kind of was a little embarrassed, but I go, you know, it just made me feel, so you know, appreciative or appreciated, and and made me feel humble that, hey, these guys, you know you know, so.

Speaker 1: 10:10

What a cool feeling.

Speaker 4: 10:11

Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1: 10:12

Congratulations. I've never actually seen some. I've watched on videos, you know some. I've watched on videos. You know pros and all doing it, but I haven't been in person seeing an ATP, so I would have loved to have seen you do that.

Speaker 3: 10:23

You mean you've never seen any of mine share?

Speaker 1: 10:27

I must've had my eyes closed.

Speaker 3: 10:33

So tell us all the fun you had on the you've been having, you were having on the pickleball court and how that evolved into Beezer Sports and the creation of the Beezer Ball.

Speaker 4: 10:45

Well, I'm very competitive by nature. My family, my life partner Julie, my daughter Savannah they'll tell you I'm really competitive. Sometimes they don't like to play games with me because I get kind of competitive. They don't like to play games with me because I get kind of competitive. But so, you know, I did get. When I got the bug about four years ago, I decided, you know, I wanted to get better. So I hired a coach and he later became my business partner.

Speaker 4: 11:09

And one day when we're playing and he just he pulls out of his bag this little generic rubber ball about the size of a golf ball and he goes we're going to practice and warm up with this today. And so we started dinking with it and warming up with it, and then we transitioned back to the regular ball and we both saw immediate improvement in my game. It helped just on the spot. It helped with my eye hand coordination, it helped with my follow through. It just helped every aspect of my game immediately. And so we both said, hey, we're going to make this part of a weekly routine. So that's what we did, and so every week we'd start off for like 10 minutes of warming up with it, and I had the same feeling every single week, every single time we played, and so again the business juices started flowing a little bit and all of a sudden this little light bulb goes off and I went to my business partner and I said, okay, is there a ball made specifically for Pickleball, a little ball like this made specifically for Pickleball? And he said I don't think so.

Speaker 4: 12:12

And so we did our internet research and I even hired an attorney and did a patent research and there was nothing out there Not made of soft rubber like this. There's some, there were some hard plastic balls that people been using, but not a soft rubber one like ours. And the the thing about the soft rubber one it more mimics the bounce of a pickleball. And there's more things you can do with it. You can dink with it, volley with it. And we didn't even know this until we got the final version of the ball, which took about a year and a half of prototypes coming back and forth to our house. And when we got the final version, we just said, hey, let's try playing a full court game with it. And it worked.

Speaker 4: 12:54

And you can do it with serves. And whenever we do demonstrations it always turns into a full court game. Always Everybody wants. They see this unique little ball and they go, hey, I got an idea, let's try this. And we said, hey, go for it. And they have a ball with it, which was never our intent, but people are having fun with it.

Speaker 4: 13:13

But once we decided, once we did that patent research and there was nothing out there, I just jumped in with both feet and I said, hey, jake, how about we'll form this company? I'll put it together, I'll hire the people to help us produce it. And so I took over the business part and just jumped in with both feet and, like I mentioned, it took over a year of just prototypes. And then, once we got the prototype just right, then we had to get it into production and there were some, you know, the first few runs of that weren't quite right, so it took a while. So bottom line is we didn't get the actual production ball that we loved until December of last year, just nine months ago.

Speaker 4: 13:57

So cut off the press of last year, just nine months ago, and so I I immediately, once we got it, I called the manufacturer and said I want 10,000 of them and and we launched in February of this year. They got to our house and we were able to launch and went live with it and since then I've had, I placed another order of 10,000 and I'm getting ready to place my third order for 10,000. It's just been in the last couple of months. It's really started to catch on, so it's been great.

Speaker 4: 14:23

People see, the biggest challenge is that people have never seen it before because it didn't exist. And that was even when I would get frustrated during the prototype process and I'd kind of snap at my people that were helping me design it and they had to stop me and they'd go. Ed, you're making something, you're designing something, you're creating something that's never been made before, never existed before. So it's going to take some time and we're working with you, ed, we'll do what we can and we'll, you know, and we finally, you know I stuck with it and we got the ball that we wanted, and so now we're just out there trying to get people to try it, because that's the biggest challenge They've never seen it and never touched it.

Speaker 4: 15:05

We went to a trade show a pickleball trade show in Las Vegas in June, and people would walk by and they'd see our ball and they'd go oh, that's just another one of those little hard plastic balls. I'd stop them, I'd say, here, hold this paddle and now just tap the ball. And just from tapping the ball, they go. It feels different, there's something here, and so that's been. Our biggest challenge is just getting people to actually touch it and try it and then, once they do, they buy it and they see the value.

Speaker 1: 15:31

That's so cool. What color does the ball come?

Speaker 4: 15:34

in Right now, only in the same green that the pickleball is. Oh perfect.

Speaker 4: 15:38

Right now only in the same green that the pickleball is, oh, perfect. But we have had requests and when we do future runs we are going to do some different colored ones. The biggest request we've gotten is for an orange one, Because a lot of people that are playing on basketball courts that have been converted into pickleball courts the hardwood floors they say the orange, they can see the orange better. So that'll probably be the first one we do. And then we've gotten requests for a ball that's half one color, half another, and that way people can practice their spin and see if their spin is working. So we will, as we can and as we grow, we will bring on some additional colors and introduce those as well.

Speaker 1: 16:20

Do you happen to have one that you can show us right now?

Speaker 4: 16:23

I do, let's see, of course I do.

Speaker 1: 16:26

For those who are watching the video, it's also just audio, but for those who are watching the video on YouTube.

Speaker 4: 16:32

There it is. It's about the size of a golf ball, it's a little.

Speaker 1: 16:36

Hold it right in front of you.

Speaker 4: 16:45

Yeah, hold about the size of a golf ball, it's a little. Hold it right in front of you. Yeah, hold it in front of you. Oh, it has holes in it like a pickleball it's. It's hollow like a pickleball it's it's got holes, but it's made out of rubber so it actually it's squishy. So the thing about being made out of rubber is, when you hit it with a your paddle, it absorbs the impact of the paddle and the ball and that's what gives it the more controlled bounce so you can do all those things with it. The hard plastic ones that are out there they kind of fly off your paddle like a ping pong ball, so you have very little control. But this one it just it more mimics the bounce of a pickleball, but being smaller, you really have to focus and so it's just. It just makes you really focus on hitting the ball and it helps with your eye-hand coordination when doing it that way.

Speaker 3: 17:28

So it really helps you learn. I mean because I'm learning how to keep my eye on the ball. That's the biggest thing that it does, so you have to keep your eye on that ball because it's so little right.

Speaker 4: 17:38

Right, because it's so little and so small, you really have to keep your eye on that ball. Because it's right, because it's because it's so little and so small, you really have to keep your eye on the ball. That's the biggest mistake all pickleball players have. I mean, not just pickleball players, anyone in any sport where you're hitting a little ball is you take your eye off the ball right before that impact. It's like I like golf. I mean, I am horrible at golf because I get, I get all lined up and I'm ready to swing. And I'm horrible at golf because I get all lined up and I'm ready to swing and all of a sudden, before I hit it, I'm looking where it's gonna go and I go whoops, I missed it. Or it didn't go where I wanted it to go, why not? But that's what this does. It helps. Consistent use of this will help you over. First of all, you'll see immediate, you know immediately you'll see some improvement. But then consistently using it, you'll see long-term improvement with just keep your eye on the ball.

Speaker 3: 18:18

Before a game you know we all warm up. We dink we warm up 10, 15 minutes before we play. Warming up with that.

Speaker 4: 18:25

Yeah, if you do that, if you warm up with ours for like 10 or 15 minutes and then you transition to the regular ball, it makes the regular ball. First of all's, it looks like it's going in slow motion because this moves a little bit faster, but it also makes the regular ball look like a beach ball. It makes it easier to see, easier to hit, and we've had um, uh, we had some guy that you know when he tried this and he's transitioned to the regular ball. He goes. Well, it makes it look so big, it's so easy to hit. I feel like I'm ben johns, I can't miss it, just having a ball with it. Okay, but yeah, it does. It makes it easier to hit. It's, it's, it's amazing, it's, it's, it's. It's hard to explain. You get this wow moment when you warm up with ours and then transition back. You just see this difference. You go it looks so big, the regular ball looks so big.

Speaker 3: 19:10

It's just makes it easy, easier and easier yeah because I've seen people maybe only once or twice warm up with what I think they were white, so like the hard plastic ones, the small ones that are hard plastic, and my first impression was, oh, that will just mess me up yeah, um, no, exactly because if the hard plastic ones fly off your paddle so much, you don't have the control.

Speaker 4: 19:36

In fact you can't hit it the same way because you have to be kind of timid with it.

Speaker 2: 19:40

Okay.

Speaker 4: 19:40

So with the hard plastic one, where the you know this one you can be, you can hit it and follow through with it. So it more mimics the swing of the ball as well.

Speaker 1: 19:50

So I imagine it also doesn't have the same noise when you hit it.

Speaker 4: 19:54

Oh, yeah, exactly I was going to talk about that, the noise. This is so quiet. I can do this in my living room and my wife will be in the bedroom, or my partner. She'll be in the bedroom and she can barely hear it, and if I'm in the garage or in the basement, she can't hear it at all. It is so much quieter, cared at all. It is so much quieter. So yeah, in fact, if you tap a regular ball and then you tap our ball, the noise difference is dramatic. It is a lot quieter.

Speaker 1: 20:22

So it wouldn't surprise me if, in fact, it all evolves so that that's the ball that's used, even professionally, because of all the neighbors who are upset about the noise that we create with pickleball.

Speaker 4: 20:35

Yeah, that's the biggest complaint I've heard about the sport. The game of pickleball is the noise.

Speaker 1: 20:40

I love that sound. It just makes me feel good every time I hear it. But I can appreciate why people who aren't playing the game might find it a little annoying.

Speaker 4: 20:48

Right, yeah, but this is a lot quieter and you can do it. Like I said, you can do it in the privacy of your own home, because it but this is a lot quieter and you can do it. You know, like I said, you can do it in the privacy of your own home. Um, it doesn't because it's rubber. It doesn't, uh, make any indentation on your wall or any marks on your scuff marks on your wall, um. So, yeah, you can do so. You can practice it.

Speaker 4: 21:05

So many other places, like here in utah, you know, we get snow, we get in in the winter time and I would go in my garage before I'd go play at an indoor facility and I just sit and practice it in my garage for a few minutes before I leave, and then when I show up at the court I'm already kind of geared up, my brain is already working and already used to hitting a ball, so I kind of can sneak up on some people. Sometimes it takes someone a game or two to warm up. I can kind of sneak up on some people that way, so it's kind of fun.

Speaker 1: 21:36

So the spelling of Beezer Ball is B-Z-E-R right.

Speaker 4: 21:40

Correct. Yeah, my last name is B-E-A-Z-E-R. And when my business partner we were you know what are we going to call this ball? We were talking about it and I just jokingly said let's just call it the Beezer Ball. And he goes yeah, but we're going to spell it B-Z-E-R. That'll look cool on a logo. And so that's how it was born.

Speaker 1: 22:01

And that's a logo on your shirt, and so how can people order it?

Speaker 4: 22:07

It's available on our website, which is B-Z-E-Rnet. It's also available on Amazon and if you go to Amazon and just search Beezer Mini Pickleball, we pop up right away. And in fact in August we had a couple of other posts that people were doing about our ball and we got some great traction from it and there was a time early in August where we were one of Amazon's top 100 selling pickleball items. Out there it's dropped off a little bit. We've leveled off around 150 on their list, but we cracked their top 100 for a while and we're going whoa, we're like 77 best selling pickleball item, which is great, so we're excited about that.

Speaker 4: 22:52

We've got another gentleman, matthewew k pickleball. He's getting ready to do a show, uh, highlighting pickleball accessories, and we've sent him samples of our ball and he can't got back to us and goes when he airs the show, which is going to air anytime. He's been teasing that he's going to be releasing this post, this video, and he said that he's going to feature us as the, in his opinion, the best pickleball accessory that you can get.

Speaker 1: 23:17

Oh, wow.

Speaker 4: 23:19

Yeah. So when he told us that we're going cool, so people are seeing the value of it and they can see the benefits of it. It just has so many different benefits to helping improve your game, and that's what I'm all about. I mean, it helped my game and that's why we even decided to do it. I kind of think my, my life partner, julie, we were having to talk about it and when we were talking about whether or not we wanted to even pursue creating this, and she looked at me and she goes no, okay, you've been, you've been using this generic rubber ball, right, I go, yes, and she goes. And it works. Right, I go, yes, she goes. Then, if you don't do it, if it works, someone else will eventually do it and she goes, and she just goes. Plus, I just see how excited you get when you share your idea with other people. You've got to keep sharing this with people. Look how excited you get.

Speaker 4: 24:07

Look how animated you get. You just love being able to share something, share this. So she said you need to do it, and so here I am, at 66 off on a new adventure. Um, so that's one of the lessons of pickleball it's it's never too late. It's never too late to learn it, and it's never. It's just never too late in life to do, to follow your dreams and pursue something like this what a great life lesson, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1: 24:31

and don't give up, because, as you said, it was a journey getting to the ball that you really wanted, right? So don't give up.

Speaker 4: 24:39

Yeah, and that's when I do talk to other people in recovery. I tell them the same thing and I also tell I try to most people in the recovery centers that I was in they're in their 20s, they're younger people, and I try to tell them I go don't wait till you're my age to admit that you've got this disease and don't wait till you're my age to start doing something about it. You're here in this room right now. Learn from it. And and I know it's easier said than done to say learn from my mistakes, but it's hard to teach someone else to do that. But I said if you can, please try to learn from my mistakes and don't wait till you're my age to do this.

Speaker 1: 25:18

Save yourself a lot of years of struggle.

Speaker 4: 25:22

Yes.

Speaker 1: 25:24

You have some really fun stories that we know of, particularly about a 12-year-old boy Pick a ball. Tell us that story particularly about a 12-year-old boy Pick a ball.

Speaker 4: 25:37

Tell us that story. Yeah, I was playing, you know, just this past winter I was playing at an indoor facility where I play and there's this young man named Jefferson. He's 12 years old and his dad has been teaching him how to play the game and he's good. And there was this one Saturday. I went out there and Jefferson and I just kind of got paired up with each other and we went out and we won our first game and so we didn't want to break the winning streak, so we kept playing together and we kept winning. And I know that we were sneaking up on some players, because I know in particular these two guys that were probably around 30 years old and, and you know, but more athletic than than either Jefferson or I.

Speaker 4: 26:23

And you know they probably were thinking, oh, we have to play the old man and this kid. And we snuck up on them and we got like four or five points up on these guys. You could kind of I watched their face and we're going wait a minute, we've got a game on these guys. You could kind of I watched their face and I'm going wait a minute, we've got a game on our hands. It was kind of too late and we went on to win that game.

Speaker 4: 26:39

And they weren't all easy games A couple of, at least one that I remember. We had to come from behind to win. And so by the end of the morning, jefferson and I went 8-0. And he went up to his dad and he goes dad, dad, ed and I, we went 8-0. We're undefeated today. And he was just jumping up and down, he was thrilled about it. So it was just a great day. And you know, like I said, it was kind of like, yeah, the old man and the kid, you know.

Speaker 3: 27:07

So it was a hoot.

Speaker 4: 27:08

It was just so much fun yeah.

Speaker 1: 27:11

That makes a good title.

Speaker 3: 27:21

The old man in the sea. No, the old man and the kid. It's the magic of pickleball, isn't?

Speaker 4: 27:23

it that you can, an old man and a kid can play together and have so much fun. And oh, actually it is. I mean it's, it's such a great sport game for for all ages. And, like you said, yeah, here I am with the 12 year old jefferson. He and I were, you know we play, just, you know, weed each other very well, I mean. So it was just, it was a lot of fun, I think. Actually, I think the next time we saw each other, we partnered up again and we won two more games before we finally lost. Wow.

Speaker 1: 27:47

How fabulous, and we want to be watching. Jefferson Sounds like he has a future in pickleball.

Speaker 4: 27:55

Exactly, he's at least a 3-5 to a 4-0 player, right now at 12.

Speaker 1: 27:58

At 12. At 12 years old.

Speaker 4: 28:03

By the time he's 18, 19, 20, maybe he'll give the Gabe Tardios and the Ben Johns and those guys a run for their money.

Speaker 1: 28:11

Wow, oh my gosh, ed, what a delight it's been to chat with you today and I'm so excited to learn about this beezer ball, which I want to remind our audience. It's bzernet for your website and also it's available on amazon, and as soon as we get off this call, I'm going to be ordering a bunch. Me too, I'm going to order my Muser ball. Right Eastside Tennis Center community is going to flip over it Great, fantastic I appreciate that. Thank you so much for being on our show.

Speaker 4: 28:46

Oh, you very well. Thank you for inviting me to come on, it's been a pleasure.

Speaker 1: 28:50

It's been such a pleasure and really appreciate you sharing your story. I know you've already touched so many hearts in the journey that you've been on in life to be in recovery and then to take this time at this in the 60s to start a brand new adventure, and you've just been following your heart through this whole journey and that has touched my heart and I know it's touched people who are listening too. So thank you so much.

Speaker 4: 29:17

You bet my pleasure, thank you.

Speaker 1: 29:18

Thank you, and thank you everybody. Oh my gosh, get that Beezer ball we're going to. It's going to change our game. I'm planning on being a 6.0 pretty soon.

Speaker 3: 29:29

If.

Speaker 1: 29:29

I can at least be a 3, I'll be happy. Well, thank you all, and we look forward to a new conversation next week. Bye-bye, bye-bye.

Speaker 2: 29:45

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Speaker 2: 30:06

Thanks so much. Hope to see you on the court.