Meeting Marie Manuccieri

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Hi , I'm Shelly Maurer and I'm Cher Emrick . Welcome to Life .

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Lessons from Pickleball where we engage with pickleball players from around the world about life on and off the court .

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Thanks for joining us . Welcome everyone to Life . Lessons from Pickleball . Oh my gosh , we are so honored to have with us today Marie Manuccieri . Marie , you are an energy medicine healer with a private practice that includes thousands of clients from all over the world , and you're an author , public speaker and a teacher . And a medium too , and a medium too .

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Marie , you also host a weekly podcast where energy meets the divine . I have personally followed you and I'm getting emotional for over 20 years .

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Thank you , that's extremely kind .

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I listen to every radio show and now I listen to all your podcasts . I'm so excited for our listeners to hear from you today , because I have gained so many life lessons from you over the years and you greatly improved my quality of life . Oh , that's extremely kind . It's me .

Speaker 3 1:08

Yeah , I'm I've had some lovely time sitting by the lake with you and your husband sitting wine by the way because we didn't live on that . We , we lived fairly close to each other and every once in a while you'd invite me over and we'd sit by the water and sit , it was gorgeous , it was gorgeous .

Speaker 1 1:32

Yeah , really fun Well we are both definitely fangirls . I've known you about 20 years too , my dear , and I love your work , love your podcast , and when Shelly and I heard you talking about how much fun you were having playing pickleball , we said , oh my gosh , it'd be so fun to have Marie on our show . So , thank you so much for joining us . Oh , it's my pleasure .

Speaker 3 1:54

Thank you for having me . It's an absolute pleasure . Yeah , absolute pleasure .

Speaker 1 1:57

Yeah , it's wonderful Before we get into pickleball , though . You have one of the most fascinating life journeys , and we are so excited that our audience gets to meet you , if they haven't met you already , although I'm sure many , many already know who you are and what you do but share some of your life journey that brought you to this place , where you are working as an energy medicine healer .

Marie's Holistic Journey to Nursing

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And you know , Cher , I even forgot about how long ago we knew each other , you know , like so long ago . Right , it just went like that so fast , Because I said later , you know , on the shift area right .

Speaker 3 2:34

So it just went by so fast . Wow , yeah , you have a good memory . So you know , my family of origin was very holistic and my mother rarely took us to a physician . We would see Chinese herbal medicine doctors and chiropractors . Growing up we took lots of supplements and I mean my mother would give us cod liver oil by the tablespoon .

Speaker 3 2:58

You know like so gross but she would make us eat it and she cooked and made mostly organic food for us , which was kind of interesting . Sourcing that in the 60s . I was born in the 60s . Sometimes we bought food in the basements of churches . You know , unless you grew up , we grew up in apartments so we didn't have access to gardens and things of that nature .

Speaker 3 3:24

But so I've always been holistic . My mother filled our house with books on spirituality . So I've read a lot of books from a very early age and really believed in it , but never even considered even for a second that I would be someone who would work in that industry or in that part of the world . That never even occurred to me . And you know , grow up and get married and put my husband through college . And then it was my turn and he suggested that I study nursing and I thought he was crazy . I'm like , if anything , I should go to Bastyr University , right , the naturopathic university locally here that's well-renowned throughout the world . I should go there , not modern medicine , and he goes . I think you should at least take some classes . So I loved all the classes I took . I eventually applied to nursing school . I loved every moment of it , loved it . It was just so nice to even learn other ways to heal people , because acute care medicine is very different than holistic medicine . When people have serious acute care illnesses , they need a hospital , they may need surgery , they need drugs that are going to work really fast . It was fascinating to just be in this completely different world and I loved it .

Speaker 3 4:43

I ended up working at a hospital just outside of Seattle , close to all of us , and during my time on the oncology floor which was not my plan I initially got hired to work in the hospital , to work in kind of a step-down unit where patients who were acute but were going to have to go off to a nursing home eventually for rehab . So I worked in the hospital part of it graveyard , three 12-hour shifts working there , and after I worked there for a couple of years on that floor and after a while I started to get tachycardia . My heart started to race and nurses don't like to really go to the doctor and I was of course , raised not to go to the doctor . But eventually I had to pull one of the cardiologists into the hallway and say I have tachycardia and because it had been going on for months and months and so he did a full workup , you know I wore a harness for a while and had an echocardiogram done and I was fine . So he said it's your biorhythms . You have to leave graveyard . You know your body can't handle it .

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My kids were all in school so I'd come home and sleep for a while , get up and go get them First , take them to school , make their lunches , drop them off and then go pick them up . So I never really got enough sleep . So he said you have to change your shifts . So the only area of the hospital that had a day shift available was the oncology floor and , to my surprise , I loved it . I

Hospital Intuition Awakening

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just loved every second of it . I think hospitals are really cool places because there's so much transformation going on . You know there's souls coming in and there's souls exiting . So there's huge gateways open everywhere . There's beings coming to help collect those who are crossing over . There's beings helping to bring in souls that are being born . It's just a hub of transformation .

Speaker 3 6:37

And while I was on the oncology floor , I began to hear , see and feel my patients' bodies in a way that I didn't normally Like .

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I would be at the bedside of a patient , maybe changing their IV or dressing a wound , or something of that nature .

Speaker 3 6:56

And this one time in particular , I remember that it was as if my vision just went , like x-ray , through the blanket , through their clothes which , of course , they weren't wearing that much clothing , right , just a hospital gown and then into their body and I would land in an organ and the organ would start to talk to me and it would tell me why the person um had health issues , and the reasons could have been from childhood , from a relationship they were in at the moment , from , you know , something that they wanted to manifest or create in their life and it hadn't worked out , and and so they had these repressed emotions that led to the underlying reason for their disease .

Speaker 3 7:37

And so that was happening along with this part sounds the weirdest really , but it made me so I don't know , maybe feel at home with the whole situation , because I was married at the time and I didn't even tell my husband what was happening to me . Oh my gosh , yeah , I didn't know how he was going to react and luckily I was a part of a couple of meditation groups and so I was telling them what was happening , and they were like oh my God , that's amazing .

Speaker 3 8:06

You know , but I would go to bed at night . Amazing , but I would go to bed at night and when I would wake up in the morning I was afraid to open my eyes because these beautiful golden pyramids , about an inch to two inches in diameter , would spin hundreds of them all around me . So as I would lay in bed , starting to wake up , I would listen because they would hum . I would listen for their humming and then I would go oh good , it's not gone , because I didn't know how long this was going to last . Is this just a temporary thing ? Do I have a brain tumor ?

Speaker 3 8:38

That did cross my mind . Is this all going to go away ? Because I was raised with the belief of intuition and , you know , believing that psychic ability and being multisensory was normal , but I had never experienced things every day . I'd have an experience , maybe once a decade I'd have something very cool or interesting happen , but it wasn't daily . And so , seeing those pyramids , which I don't routinely see them , unless I start to talk about them , and then my vision starts to see some of them , you know , are you seeing them right now , right now .

Speaker 3 9:14

Yeah , yeah .

Speaker 1 9:15

Very cool .

Speaker 3 9:16

So they were kind of my friends and and then every day just got so full . Um , there were so many things happening , you know , uh , psychically to me when I was on the floor , that I eventually went to my nurse supervisor and told her what was happening , cause I thought for sure she was going to order a psyche valve and suspend me . I mean cause that's what I would have done if a nurse had come to me and said that and I was the supervisor , but she did it . She said I think you're seeing energy and you need to lay hands on our patients .

Speaker 1 9:50

Wow .

Speaker 3 9:51

I know right .

Speaker 2 9:52

Yeah , bless her .

Speaker 3 9:53

Yeah , yes , and I think when people follow their joy , even if your logical mind doesn't understand it , because my logical mind didn't understand , how can I like this oncology floor so well , when you know , of course , anyone who's healed from cancer with Western medicine I'm thrilled and ecstatic and grateful for ? But it wouldn't be my first approach . Of course it would depend on the type of cancer and where it's located , and I'm obviously open to . I don't care how people heal , as long as they heal . It doesn't matter to me how it occurs . But in my logical mind I'm like you know , I'm so happy here and I think if people just follow their joy , their own personal joy , they get to wherever they need to be and they get to experience themselves in ways they never had have experienced themselves before , and it won't make logical sense , you know it just none of it will make sense at all to us , right ? It just won't . But yet that's where you know our true selves lie and more of our understanding of who we are .

Speaker 3 10:58

So I laid hands on as many people as I could for about a year and a half . I would just walk into patients' rooms that I wasn't assigned to and ask them if I could lay hands on them to , and asked me if I could lay hands on them and I would get information and I created like a , an encyclopedia of what energy medicine looked like to me . And then I would go out and read their chart and so it helped me to understand , okay , because I would not know their diagnosis or what was going on with them . And then I'd get all these impressions , I'd read their chart , I'd go , oh , this is what ovarian cancer looks like , or this is what , because it was again an oncology floor , and then people started just showing up at my house unannounced , so the word had kind of gotten out a little bit .

Speaker 2 11:43

Oh , wow .

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In fact , a few supervisors at the hospital hired me on my day off to come take care of employees of the hospital who were in the hospital as patients and so I would go lay hands on them and they paid me for it .

Speaker 3 11:57

And then people just started showing up and they would lay on the couch or the floor . I didn't have a massage table , I didn't have anything like that . And then after and then after a while , I started a practice and eventually , after a few years , left the hospital and yeah , I left in 2000 . So I haven't been back since .

Speaker 1 12:17

That was hard for you to leave the hospital . You really loved it .

Speaker 3 12:20

I think of it still every single day .

Speaker 2 12:24

Oh yeah .

Speaker 1 12:27

And when you say , you put your hands on and you are seeing as if it's almost an x-ray , but even better than x-ray . Are you seeing in color ? Are you seeing the organs and the blood vessels , and all this as if the skin weren't there ?

Speaker 3 12:46

Yes . So I see it in full color . And what I'm looking for when I work on clients is I'm looking for where the bright light is , because a lot of people think that you know that when you work in energy or you know you're using medical intuition , that you're looking for the stuck energy or the dark energy . But the body is actually happy , no matter what , and is doing the best it can to help the soul of the being to live as long as it wants to live on earth , cause souls don't even care about chrono , anything about age , or they don't care about death because they don't really believe in death . They just know it's a transition from one world to the next .

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So I'm looking for the bright light because that's where the most information is going to be and it may not even be where the person has a health issue . So when I do see a client , I go in cold . I don't want to know anything about their history . My assistants might know because of our cancellation list or things of that nature , but I prefer to go in cold because most people who kind of see someone like me , if it's for health reasons because people see me for all kinds of reasons they probably have already seen lots of people . They've already had all kinds of advice . They usually don't seek out someone like myself right away

Following Joy as Life Purpose

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Most people don't , and so I want to make sure my intuition is guiding the experience as much as possible versus my logical mind . Wow , you guys are so cute .

Speaker 1 14:18

Because you know me we do , but it's still , even still .

Speaker 3 14:22

I mean really amazing , yeah , yeah . Well , thank you , it's fun , it's really fun .

Speaker 1 14:28

Yeah , it's a joy . That's clear and that's what you know , that's what you've said a lot , and you mentioned it too . Follow your joy and on your podcast , which we love people will often ask you , so I'm trying to figure out my purpose and your guidance . Is what ? What brings you joy ? It's not about helping other people , Say something about that .

Speaker 3 14:52

I think that once you figure out your joy , of course it's going to help other people . Even the person who created sticky notes , you know , because we still use them , even in this technical age . They're all over my other office . I always imagine those people were having fun and they were in joy and they were playing with colors , you know , before a big corporation bought them out Cause I'm sure that's what happened from the original creators it .

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It's when people are thinking , oh , I want to do this so I can help others .

Speaker 3 15:24

That's a burden , you know , and it's we don't know if people are going to shift their consciousness or heal their body or if the coaching is going to help them to establish or manifest or create what they want in their life and um , and you have to be okay with that too , right , you have to be okay with whatever the being wants to do , because we all have free will . So if people enter things from a place of joy , you will be the most helpful that you possibly can be . But even in the work I do , it's not my focus . How many dead people am I going to see in this reading and how much energy am I going to see in someone's field , when I'm teaching a class , so I'm excited for the multisensory world , when I love that part of it . So I'm excited for the multi-sensory world when , like , I love that part of it , and and then , uh , then other things get to happen too . So everyone just has to find out what really turns them on .

Speaker 2 16:17

Well , and I think what you said is it doesn't always make sense , because I've heard you say that a lot and so I would have never thought I would be on a podcast . I mean it's kind of funny Podcast . I tell my kids when I'm doing they're like what you're doing , a podcast , you know , but it brings me so much joy and and so it doesn't make sense , but it's so fun and it and it . I love meeting all the people , I love talking about pickleball , I love hearing people's stories . It's just so joyful , right .

Speaker 2 16:48

So you're right , it's like people need to get over that If it doesn't make sense , that's okay , it's joyful , I don't think intuition will ever make logical sense ?

Speaker 3 16:57

ever , because it's not coming from the brain , right ? Right ? Yeah , even though the third eye is in the brain , it's more of a projector , right ? So it projects visions or auditory sensations or clear , sentient kind of experiences , feelings , but it doesn't originate from the brain . Yeah , Right . But I'm so happy for your podcast . I'm so happy for you guys and how much fun you're having . It brings us joy .

Speaker 1 17:23

Having a blast . As you are on yours .

Speaker 2 17:26

Yes .

Speaker 1 17:27

It brings you as much joy as ours brings to us , and you teach people how to tap in . It's your belief . I believe that everyone has access to the other realms and you help us get out of our minds and into our hearts and intuition . And what blocks us us , do you think the most . Why is ? Why isn't that a more natural ability for us ?

Speaker 3 17:56

overthinking and analyzing people thinking that's really what does it so ? Because I think the brain is is meant to only help us with logical things , like I needed to make sure I had some warm water in here that . I turned on the lights or whatever I have to do , but the rest of it is intuition and I believe intuition is a thousand times more accurate than logic . You know , when it comes to the majority of the things we need to make decisions about in our life , I think that the intuition is more accurate .

Speaker 1 18:29

And you have classes to teach that .

Speaker 3 18:32

Yeah , I teach classes . Yeah , I love it . I teach on mediumship and energy healing and self-love , which is critical . That's one of the reasons why I love pickleball so much , because I have so much fun when I'm doing it . It's like , you know , I play with one friend and you know we play singles and we don't even keep score , we just run . I run more . She's about 13 years younger than me , so I run more , but it is just a joy . It's an absolute joy to be out there and moving your body and playing and it's fun and all the people are nice that are all around us . Yeah , I absolutely love it . So it's kind of like anything that you can do with that abandoned feeling and not be in your logical mind . Those are things that are really great for us , and then the logical mind can work better when it has the freedom to power down and become quiet . That's why meditation is so powerful , because it teaches us how to quiet our minds .

Speaker 1 19:31

Yeah , what happens to us physically ? You talk about the sub .

Vibration, Frequency and Self-Love

Speaker 1 19:37

What are those particles ? Oh subatomic particles , yeah . Subatomic particles , yeah . Is that what's being affected when we feel joy like that , that abandoned joy , that's ?

Speaker 3 19:47

a great question . So everything's about energy , vibration and frequency , right ? Everything , Everything , Everything , everything wealth , happiness , health everything's about frequency , Absolutely , and energy vibration . So when we're happy , our subatomic particles because everything's made out of energy the shirt that I'm wearing , the devices we're looking into everything's made out of energy .

Speaker 3 20:11

When we're in joy , our subatomic particles start to vibrate higher and higher and higher , and all the things that we want in life vibrate at a very high frequency . All the things we don't want in life vibrate in a low frequency , and frequency just means how long you hold that vibration . So if you're happy and you've got your vibration elevated , the frequency is how long you hold it . So some people hold their joy for long periods of time . Some people rarely hold their joy for any length of time . Some people can only hold it for a couple of seconds , and that's again because the mind interrupts them and provides some sort of distraction or some false evidence , or they think they're feeling an emotion , but the mind can't feel . So what information the mind gives us is not authentic in terms of , you know , the emotional response system .

Speaker 1 21:11

What's your term for fear ? What's the definition of fear ?

Speaker 3 21:15

Well it's , it's actually there's an acronym for it , right ? False evidence appearing real .

Speaker 1 21:20

False evidence appearing real . I love that .

Speaker 3 21:23

Right . So it's not real . But I think the ego when people are in their ego , it's when they're in fear . So I think everyone's supposed to love and adore and cherish themselves and when we are authentically an ego . So that means the dictionaries are inaccurate , the definition is not correct and that when we're in fear , that's when we're dancing with our ego .

Speaker 2 21:45

When we're in that space , yeah , that's what I was going to say . The second thing that I've really taken away from your podcast is how important it is to love ourselves , and that's just what you're talking about and how , for my generation , you remember , like if you talked about yourself or loved yourself , you were conceited and nobody wanted to be conceited , so you were supposed to love everyone else more , or look out always right , and how important you talk about that . We love ourselves more than anything , more than anybody else , so we can love everybody else , right , right , and then people can love ourselves more than anything more than anybody else .

Speaker 3 22:19

So we can love everybody else Right , and then people can love you more , because people can only love us to the level that we love ourselves Right , cause there's that like tracks , like vibration going on in this manifesting world . So , yeah , when we love ourselves more , we attract different people . We have different experiences . Things are a lot more smooth , yeah . A lot of good things happen , yeah .

Speaker 1 22:44

So you've talked about playing with your . What's your friend's name that you ?

Speaker 3 22:47

play Shana .

Speaker 1 22:49

Yeah , nice , and you , you don't keep score and you are not even quite clear on all the rules yet

Pickleball Joy and Life Lessons

Speaker 1 22:54

. Yeah , I mean , and you are not even quite clear on all the rules yet ?

Speaker 3 22:57

Yeah , I mean , we've taken one workshop , We've had private coaching even , but clearly we don't care . You know I love that , of course . We know what the kitchen is and we know , you know , whether it's in or out . We switch sides every time we serve . You know whenever right .

Speaker 1 23:16

I see .

Speaker 3 23:17

So we have some , but then sometimes we don't care . Serve , you know , whenever the right . So we , we have some , but then sometimes we don't care either . You know , like , like we ding for the first 10 minutes you know , to warm up .

Speaker 3 23:27

And and I'm so surprised how that helps your abs . Just that dingy . I'm like , how does that happen ? Maybe because you're squatting more and you know closer to the net , I'm not really sure . And then then we play the whole field and where we play it's they're not the legal size of pickleball courts , you know . So it used it used to be basketball courts and then they divided into four . So we went a lot , you know like . In fact , this one person came over and asked if we wanted to pay doubles and we said no , and they were very nice , and I just said we never play doubles . You're going to lose if we play with you .

Speaker 2 24:06

He didn't care .

Speaker 3 24:07

He didn't care at all and he goes . You guys just look like you're exerting a lot of effort . It won't be as hard if you play doubles .

Speaker 1 24:16

I'm like no , but that's why we're here .

Speaker 3 24:18

You know we want to run like the Dickens .

Speaker 2 24:22

Oh , okay , it's amazing to me because I have never tried singles . Just for that reason I like to do tournaments . I'm competitive , I like all those rules , all those rules . When I hear you on your podcast , oh , we just are out there playing hitting .

Speaker 3 24:41

It's so fun . I know the people like you and they're hooting and laughing and I mean they're seriously playing , but they're having so much fun .

Speaker 2 24:52

Yes .

Speaker 3 24:54

And I can hear the score because they're yelling it out right , so I know what the score is .

Speaker 2 24:57

You know , four courts away from me you know , yeah , yeah , I love it , I love it .

Speaker 1 25:04

I always play doubles , except with my son , mike , who's 40 , and boy , does he run me ragged . Oh my gosh . Yeah , but we don't keep score either .

Speaker 3 25:14

But we , we just work , work , yes wow , I know there's some young men that play next to us sometimes and they're diving . Yeah , we think we're running hard , but these guys are diving on the ground to kick the ball .

Speaker 2 25:29

I'm like oh my gosh , that's Mike , yes .

Speaker 1 25:33

That is .

Speaker 3 25:33

Mike for sure .

Speaker 1 25:35

So , in this incredible life journey you've had and that you continue and you're playing on the court , are there life lessons that either you've learned in life that you find yourself using in pickleball , or life lessons that kind of came to you while you're playing pickleball that you are using in your life pickleball ?

Speaker 3 25:56

that you are using in your life . Well , I mean , pickleball is also a good opportunity , you know , especially if you're not doing really well , or you know if Shane is doing more serving than I am .

Speaker 3 26:08

You know , I'm not doing as well , having that inner dialogue like , honey , you're doing a great job , everything's okay . I was trying to cause I don't hold my racket correctly and so I was trying to work on holding it better , but I'm not a great player . When I so I got to have I had to go back to my inappropriate hold on the handle and uh yeah . So in my head I'm like it's okay , honey doing great . Um , I think pickleball at least for me , it's just about being free . You know there's a freedom to running and playing and laughing and being silly and and , and . That is just so important , I think , especially for adults , you know , when you do get grandkids which we do have grandkids too , cher .

Speaker 1 26:52

I have one , one grandson . Yeah , so they remind you of that right . Oh boy , All right Of that abandoned play .

Speaker 3 27:12

In fact , thank goodness I take Pilates because I don't think I'd be able to keep up with the grandkids or hold them or help them on all the crazy things they want to do on the play field at the same time , like I would be injured most likely , injured most likely . So I think that that abandoned playfulness it's like reintroduced in a different way in my life since I started playing pickleball . But overall I think it's just to not have any expectations in life .

Speaker 3 27:31

Oh , wow , yeah , that's good and learn to be present , because the present moment overall is kind of boring for the human mind right and so people want more drama or other things going on to make it more interesting , but , um , yeah , I that's definitely a big part of my life . Lesson is to learn to be present .

Speaker 1 27:54

Yeah , as much as possible present . Be kind , be kind to yourself , love yourself yeah lots of wonderful , wonderful lessons . In fact , Shelly and I were just going through all these lessons that we learned from you , oh , you guys could teach all of this , all of this stuff you can teach yourself .

Speaker 1 28:15

Well , we are really grateful to you for being on the show with us , marie . So great to be connected again and to reminisce about all the years that have passed . And you were talking about your girls who kind of grew up together yours and Shelley's and now they have kids of their own . It's just amazing , the full circle of life , and I just want to remind people about when Energy Meets , the Divine podcast that you have . It's just terrific . Terrific , and twice a week you drop an episode twice a week and people can call in or they leave messages for you to then you get to eventually because you have so many and then you answer and give them , give us insight and , yeah , it's a terrific podcast thank you .

Speaker 3 29:03

I did radio for about 14 years , which I really loved , and people would , as you both know , would call in live and when I wanted to move to podcasts , because

Finding Freedom Through Play

Speaker 3 29:11

I wanted to teach a little bit more and with radio it's not as easy to teach at least , you know , that's what I the conclusion I came to and , uh , so yeah , people leave a voicemail on the website and and then we answer it , or I do the universe yeah and so what is your website for people to be able to connect you ?

Speaker 3 29:32

follow you , yeah energy intuitivecom , or you can just marie manuerrycom , either way , and we'll get you there energyintuitivecom .

Speaker 1 29:41

Excellent , excellent , well , thank you , thank you , thank you really appreciate you being on the show and thank you all . Oh my gosh , what an amazing insight . Okay , follow your joy , be kind to yourself , love yourself and have a blast .

Speaker 3 30:01

Just have a blast Go play pickleball . It'll make you happy . Go play pickleball .

Speaker 1 30:06

You will have so much fun and meet so many amazing people . You will have a blast .

Speaker 3 30:11

And thank you so much , both of you , for having me . It was so nice to see you again and your presence and your energy . Thank you so much for having me . Thank you .

Speaker 1 30:21

Thank you and thank you all . Oh my gosh , don't forget to like , subscribe and follow and share and go check out where energy meets , the divine podcast you will love . You will love Marie on her podcast . Kind of makes me a little teary too . Okay , no more crying and we look forward to another conversation next week . Bye-bye , everyone .

Speaker 2 30:47

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Speaker 1 31:00

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Speaker 2 31:13

Thanks , so much Hope to see you on the court .