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E61: Coco Lococo: Australia’s Only Female Pro Pickleball Coach
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How does a young tennis coach from Australia become a pro pickleball player, international coach, and one of the sport’s rising leaders around the world?
In this episode, Coco Lococo shares her incredible journey from growing up in Australia with very little, to playing and coaching tennis from a young age, to rebuilding her athletic path after a devastating ankle injury ended her professional tennis dreams. She opens up about how pickleball entered her life in 2022, why the game immediately hooked her, and how she quickly rose from beginner to pro in Australia’s fast-growing pickleball scene.
Coco also talks about coaching pro teams in Major League Pickleball Australia and India’s World Pickleball League, what it means to be the first female pro coach in those spaces, and the lessons she has learned about pressure, forgiveness, focus, and staying mentally steady both on and off the court.
This is an inspiring conversation about professional pickleball, coaching, women in sports, Australian pickleball, tennis, resilience, mental toughness, and the life lessons that come from adapting, growing, and staying in the game.
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Introduction to Coco LaCoco
Speaker 1Hi , I'm Shelly Maurer and I'm Cher Emrick . Welcome to Life Lessons from Pickleball , where we engage with pickleball players from around the world about life on and off the court .
Speaker 1Thanks for joining us . Welcome everyone to Life Lessons from Pickleball . We just love that you join us each Tuesday like this , and thank you so much for everybody who has been liking and sharing and subscribing to our podcast . We just love it and we know you're loving our guests , and today will be no different . We are excited to have with us pro pickleball player , coco LaCoco what a cool name that is , coco . You turned pro in 2022 and have played three seasons with MLP Australia's Melbourne Mavericks In 2024, .
Speaker 2You made history as the first female pro coach for both MLP Australia's Melbourne Mavericks and WPBL India's Dilly team India's .
Speaker 1Dili team . And now , in 2025 , you're coaching not one , but two MLP Australia teams the Western Vipers and the Asia Sea Surge . Wow , my gosh girl . But before we dive into pickleball , let's rewind a bit . You started playing and coaching tennis at a very young age , and I mean a very young age , so tell us about that .
Speaker 3First off , thanks for having me guys . It's a pleasure to be here . I did start playing tennis very young . We were unfortunately not a wealthy family , so we were pretty poor and I started playing tennis before I could walk and it was through the donations of everyone around us that gave me a racket and gave me shoes and put me on a court and then at age 10 I was quite good . So I was winning tournaments by , I think , the age of six , and then by about 10 , they decided that I should pay back a little .
Speaker 3So I started coaching quite young and I remember looking up at the adults and helping them very young . So that was a long time ago , but it kicked off my passion for , even then , loving to help people and coach them .
Speaker 1How do you explain being able to play so well , so young ? And now , when you say before you could walk , you're kind of teasing about about that , or they literally put a racket in your hand before you were walking yeah .
Speaker 3So my dad was state one squash player . So he decided in his wisdom , and probably rightly so , that there was no money coming into squash . He thought that the sport unfortunately , as much as he loved it , was dying . So he used to keep me amused by , and the only way to keep me amused was to put a ball or a racket in my hand . So I used to have a racquetball racket with a tennis ball on the squash court and hit up against like roll it against the wall before I could walk . So once I had a racket , once I could stand and had a racket , the rest was pretty much history .
Speaker 1And love at first sight , or what I mean , you were instantly loving it as a little one .
Speaker 3Yeah , I think that the only way to like dolls and toys and things didn't pacify me , but a ball did . So you put a ball in my hand . Didn't matter whether we play AFL over here , um , or in Vic , when we did , where I grew up , but , um , yeah , you could put any ball in my hand and that would keep me amused . And , uh , tennis racket , no different . Any cricket bat or anything would definitely keep me calm , and that's all I do outdoors all day . So then , how did your tennis journey continue ? So I got up through the ranks , played grade , which is like the highest that you can play in Australia before the satellite tournaments . So I got lots of scholarships , which was really good , obviously not as big as the American scholarships . I was offered one over there , but my father unfortunately wouldn't let me go . So I progressed up and was on my way and then , at 19 , unfortunately , did a really serious injury and that forced me out of the game altogether . So that was it until I discovered pickleball serious injury .
Speaker 1Is there a story around that ?
Speaker 3yeah , I , I was on court , uh , coming into like play the qualies of the Australian Open , and my coach um , we both missed a ball that usually we would all see and I was doing some smashes and as I landed I tore everything in my left ankle . So that was me on crutches for six months . There was no way back from that . So , yeah , it was pretty devastating at the time . But again , you know , as I know , as I mentioned , I love coaching . So I had a bit of a break and then just went straight back into that . But professionally , that was it for me , didn't you have an academy ?
Speaker 3I did so . I had a business for 25 years . Tennis , it was all tennis and , uh , it was up in queensland . So I started that in 2000 and then have run it all the way through . But in 2022 , when I discovered pickleball , I never thought I'd love something equal or more than never than tennis , and I was addicted first guy so hey , when you had the academy , were you still playing recreationally ?
Speaker 2I mean , you weren't the pro anymore .
Speaker 3No , not too much . I mean a little bit , but not , I think , the enjoyment of playing . I think when you start coaching you get a bit of coach's feet and you're just a bit slower and you know I enjoyed hitting , but not so much playing . I played a little bit and when I did I loved it , but I think what I I loved about the transition over to pickleball is that it was almost learning the same thing but different yeah and it's just a tweak on it .
Speaker 3That's enough . That , like on a tennis court , to hit me is difficult . On a pickleball court , it's quite easy , like initially when I first started . So like I was like people are hitting me with the ball , like I'm not . What's going on ? This is great . I love this .
Speaker 1I love being hit with the ball .
Speaker 3It's fascinating to me because that doesn't happen generally . So obviously it was me putting it in the wrong spot initially because I had no idea . But yeah , it was , I don't know . It just drew me straight away . I was like I love that .
Speaker 1How did you actually learn about pickleball ? How were you introduced ?
Speaker 3So my good friend from melbourne so obviously , as I said , I'd moved to queensland called me up one day and said there's this game called pickleball in 2022 and she's like you should go try it . And I went what who would name a sport that , like I had no idea that it was so big in the US . I had never heard of it and I'm like that won't be a thing in Queensland . Like please .
Speaker 2Anyway , she's like Google it , so I did .
Speaker 3And it turns out some of the best . Well , at that point the best players in Australia were in Queensland and you had not even known it existed . That is hilarious , no , and so I went to a come and try and lasted I think they had me on court
Tennis Journey from Toddler to Pro
Speaker 3for three minutes and went no , get off . And I went I don't know how to score , like someone teach me and they said no . I thought the scoring was really weird as well at that point .
Speaker 1It is weird . I was like what ?
Speaker 3So then they said you need to go to an advanced class , like you need to go to that , and I said okay . But they said , whatever you do , don't tell them that you're a beginner . And I said okay . So I rocked up at this advanced pickleball session and the lady there who we get along really well with now , you know asked me lots of questions and I'm not a liar . So I said , oh , you know , I'm a beginner , and with that I got a bit of a lecture for five minutes about how I should .
Speaker 3You know , like um , there's limited court space in Brisbane and I said , look , just give me a go . Like I don't even know how to score , so just just help me and if not , I'll sit and I'll watch . You guys , it's no problem . Yeah , so it was no issue Ended up having a great time there and they invited me back the following week . I believe that , yeah , it was all good . And then , two weeks after that , finally , I got invited to the pros and they tagged me at least 12 times . It was great , I had a great time tattooed by the ball yeah , they definitely .
Speaker 3I was just like surprised that they could hit me um , maybe my arrogance . But I was like , wow , like am I not quick enough ? What am I doing wrong ? And so I'm trying to process because I'm still trying to learn how to score two weeks in and I'm like what am I doing ? Like , how do I stop that from happening ? Like , obviously I'm doing something , so what is it that I've got to stop ? And yeah , so it was such a good learning curve initially for me going , oh right , I need to drop the ball , I need to do this and I can't just come in and follow it . It was fascinating for me to learn straight away .
Speaker 1Did you sell your academy before or after you were introduced to pickleball ? After After , so you said okay , I'm done . I'm all in with pickleball .
Speaker 3Yeah , I'm someone that , like , there's not many things I do well in this world , but one is coach and I decided that the passion for me because it sort of shifted , as I said , to pickleball not that I lost the passion for tennis , but I just thought I wasn't giving as much as I could give on court for tennis . And although the clients assure me that that's not the case , I just felt that that's where my heart now lies and that's now where I want to go . So they were all very good and they all begged me every day to come back . But occasionally I'll step on court with them , but not often .
Speaker 2No , I'm still just kind of stunned . So you picked up pickleball in 2022 and then you became a pro in 2022 . So someone saw me play .
Speaker 3And then they called up the head of Pickleball Australia , who's Jen Rammer-Murthy and she is the chair of the Australian pickleball scene here in Australia . And she arrived but she wasn't in pickleball gear gear . So I had no idea who she was . And they're like , oh , you know , meet Jen . And I'm like hi . She's like hi , who are you like ?
Speaker 3And so we actually didn't have much of a chat until the following week when she's like would you like a hit ? And I can show you . And I said yeah , like , oh , like that would be fantastic . And then she was great . She taught me all the little finer points and the things that you know as a tennis player . I didn't know , obviously , I thought drives down the line were a great idea , when you're off your back foot , you know , instead of middle ball , and the safety and all that . So she taught me a lot , the safety and and all that . So she taught me , uh , a lot . And then when , yeah , and then lucky enough that I managed to be able to turn pro later that year , great that is not a typical story , is it Shelley ?
Speaker 3no , I'm sure if I was in America it might be slightly different though . So you know , like , um , I think that the scene in Australia is growing now exponentially , like but we're still in its infancy , like we're only , you know , five or six years in . It's not , it hasn't been running for decades like the US . So I'm sure , yeah , it sort of stands out here , but over there I wouldn't have that process , wouldn't have happened , I'm sure have you done any tournaments ?
Speaker 2yeah have you done any tournaments ?
Speaker 3here . Not yet I haven't been over to america . I was actually talking to wes gabrielson this morning saying , mate , when , when are we coming over ? What are we up to ? So um ? I will definitely come over . It will be wonderful .
Speaker 1So you went pro in 2022 and then , all of a sudden , you're coaching pro teams . What the heck .
Speaker 3So that's Wes Gabaldson's fault so we'll blame him .
Speaker 3We're gonna blame him for that one when I met Wes , that lovely human in , he played the first season at MLP I think it was 2022 . He played , or 23 he played . But um , anyway , I met him and I didn't know being so new to pickleball , I had no idea that there was this whole pickleball . I had no idea that there was this whole thing , like I didn't know that there was anything really . And so when I spoke to him , we just had a chit chat , I had no idea who he was , but we just got along really well and um , he was like oh , you know , I wouldn't , wouldn't mind doing some clinics with you . And I said , oh , do you coach ? He's like a little , you know , so modest .
Speaker 3Anyway , I had no idea , and then I went back to the other pros and they're like what are you talking to Wes about ? And I went , what do you mean ? And they're like don't you know who he is ? I'm like I said like he's , he's like former US one and he's like pickleball hall of fame . And I'm like there's a pickleball hall of fame , so dumb Coco . And so I went , what ? And they're like yeah , he's one of the best coaches in the world . I'm like what ? And .
Speaker 3I'm like what . So I've gone back out there and said , mate , he's like what , he helped me a lot . So , in terms of transitioning , I never want to offer my services if I feel like I'm not able to enhance or help . I don't want to ever give the wrong information and I felt like I was not ready . And then when the more time Wes and I just like you know , hung around together and the more time I spent with him , he kept saying to me no , no , you're more than like goodness me , like have a look . And I'd be like , no , I'm not ready , wes , he's like you are ready . And so his mentoring of that sort of side of things of me like saying , well , I think this , what do you think Wes ? And he's like , yeah , like spot on , he's , he just helped me understand that I do know the game . Uh , now a couple of years on , and hence why then I agreed to coach some of the pro teams ?
Speaker 1As the first female pro . Yeah .
Speaker 2That's amazing , that's very cool , that is really cool .
Speaker 3Yeah , I think a lot of coaching is transferable . I mean obviously the decades of tennis , and I've been doing it literally for you know , four decades . Yeah , a lot of it is transferable . I mean obviously the decades of tennis and I've been doing it literally for you know , four decades . Um , yeah , a lot of it is transferable . It's just some things that aren't and you've got to adjust . But yeah , I think now I feel like yes , I do have that to offer and I can offer that and yeah , so now here I am .
Speaker 2What do you think the biggest adjustments are for a tennis player ?
Speaker 3yeah and a pickleball um , so in doubles , I think singles is very similar . So I think this single strategy is very similar to tennis . Um , the double strategy is so weird in the fact for , from a tennis player's perspective , to know that safety is is right there in the middle of the court , just between , you know , the net and the kitchen . If you do that in tennis , you're wearing the ball . Yeah , like it's just not a safe place to hit a drop shot or anything like that . So I think that you know your patterns are different .
Speaker 3For doubles , um , the way that you set up for your partner is different and , yeah , I think that's probably the biggest thing . And also learning that there's no outright winners as such in pickleball . Like you've really got to play the ball , yeah , so a little bit different . And I think mentally as well . Like I think technically , tennis can be a bit harder , you know , skill wise , whereas pickleball , everyone can be good with their own technique at pickleball . So then it comes down to mental , which we don't all have all the time , you know , at different levels . So I think it becomes a lot more of a mental game how did you become a coach for a team in India ?
Speaker 3I got approached
Coaching Across Continents
Speaker 3so they'd heard about me . I'm not sure how , um .
Speaker 3I got a message through my Instagram and thought it was spam , and then they reached out again and I thought , oh , this isn't a joke , because at that point again , I hadn't really heard of the WPBL , which stands for the World Pickable League , nice . So they were brilliant . I mean , I went over there , you got to coach one of the teams . There were six in the team . So world coaches , the coaches were brilliant and the teams were amazing , the atmosphere .
Speaker 3What I love about the WPBL is their commitment and passion to the sport and to the players , which I don't know if you see so often anymore . But they really wanted to make the experience great for everyone , not just to make money and not just to . I'm sure they they did that as well , but their player experience was phenomenal . For instance , they , they took the time . So if a player came up and said , you know , I have this problem , they'd be like , oh , let me help you , and within 30 minutes that problem , whatever it is , is sorted , or there's a resolution , or you know , I'd really like to go and train .
Speaker 3Yes , sure , let us help you . You know , let us change things around and let us help you . You know , you know , let us change things around and let us help you as much as we can . So , um , they were very diligent with food , things like food and recovery , and all that for the players , which they didn't have to do , yeah , but you could see how much they want you to enjoy your experience , not just play for them , you know so . So I think that's what the biggest difference was for me . I think the community feel of the whole group and everyone got along and they'd come from all different walks of the world really Isn't that cool .
Speaker 1I was raised in India and Shelley spent a whole year there , practically . I was raised in India and Shelley spent a whole year there , practically , so I mean we just have a heart for the hospitality of that culture . It's just so loving and warm . Yeah , I'm glad that it carried over .
Speaker 3For season two , then , yeah , the stadium's great Like it's insane . It's probably one of the best atmospheres I've ever been to . I haven't been to the US , so we'll back off on that . What cities did ?
Speaker 1you play in in India ? Was it just the one city we were ?
Speaker 3only in Mumbai .
Speaker 1Mumbai .
Speaker 3So we played , though , at the ICC cricket ground , which they've never allowed another sport to be on that ground other than cricket . So it was it had we had thousands of people there and it was just their format . So their format was normal scoring , but timed , which adds a whole new element to how to play pick a ball .
Speaker 1I've never heard that before . So what happens if the time runs out and you haven't gotten to 11 ?
Speaker 3You don't play to 11 . You just continue to play . But if the time runs out and it's not all , it's not all , oh so when the time runs out , whoever's ahead wins the match
Discovering Pickleball and Going Pro
Speaker 3. Oh , I never heard of that . It's quite a fascinating way to do things .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 3Wow , I know the funny story . So I had an aide in my team and I said to them guys , we've got to train for this . And they're like no , it's fine , like time games no problem . I said okay , so I put them on court . I said , guys , the score's like 8-10, . You've got two minutes left .
Speaker 2Go and they couldn't play and he's gross .
Speaker 3The two minutes was over . They , the two minutes was over . They just couldn't get their head around it . I said what's going on ? They're like , I'm thinking about how much time do I have left ? Do I have enough time ? Do I , you know ?
Speaker 3and I said fair like pressure does funny things to you when you're not used to it . So I said that's all right , we'll drill that . And so we did . And then by the end of it , when they were on court , you could see how relaxed they are . With three minutes on the clock , they're 8 10 down , no problem . Yeah , good sign of a good coach yeah for you I mean
Speaker 2even when you're playing in a tournament and you're going to 11 versus 15 . It's a whole different mental game yeah , it is right .
Speaker 3So yeah , with the timing . Yeah , and like looking up and yeah , yeah , and there's five minutes left and you , you only got a time out to change ends . So it's seven minutes , um , with one minute in between . So you didn't have a lot of time to swap yeah , that's wild .
Speaker 1I have never heard that before , so I really appreciate you sharing that . So that's all the the world pickleball league everywhere they play . That's wild . I have never heard that before , so I really appreciate you sharing that . So that's all the the world pickleball league everywhere they play . That's how they do it they time it .
Speaker 3They did it for season one . I imagine it'll be very similar format for season two yeah it's uh , it's a very fast format because everyone's pushing right , they want the points and they want to play it quick so that they can win as many as they can .
Speaker 2So so does that speed the game up ? Does that keep people from dinking in the kitchen ?
Speaker 3yeah , you also ? Uh , yes , it does actually , but and then you only get a minute to 10 seconds between points . Oh , my god like , dawdle back and have a chat and you'll get there . Start right away .
Speaker 1Oh my gosh . Oh , you should try that sometime , shelly , and just see what happens , you know having a timer and yeah get ready for the World Pickleball League . Yeah .
Speaker 2Get ready for that World Pickleball League . Let's go .
Speaker 1And so now you're coaching two teams .
Speaker 2I just need to find a country that doesn't know about pickleball . Yet there you go .
Speaker 1I don't know that there is a country anymore , but we'll look for one . Shelley , so you're coaching two teams now .
Speaker 3I am . I'm coaching , well , technically three , but oh yeah , well , I've still got a soft spot . Melbourne Mavericks is still where I played for three seasons , um , and so I coach them in between , if the others aren't on court , but essentially the Western Vipers , a young captain called Andy Horridge who is an up-and-coming little pickleball player . He's a gun . Love watching him on court . And , yeah , he asked me and I said yes , I'd love to coach , so we've got a few players in there . And then the C-Surge um , sj Lim and Leander Lazaro from the overseas . So they said , will you also ? And that was off the back of coaching at the WPBL . Uh , leander was in my team , uh , for the Dillilly team . And then , yeah , he's like , oh yes , we could definitely use you , uh , in the mlp .
Speaker 1So I jumped over are you living the dream ?
Speaker 3I'm loving it yeah oh my god , at this point , I run around and I do lots of clinics and I do coaching and I'm happy to travel all around the world , which which I do do , and I don't necessarily have a base , which I'm loving at the moment as well um , and that you know , courtesy also , uh , I think we mentioned , like I've got uh selkirk as a sponsor , so they really do support and help me , um , but in saying that , they've helped me even before they knew I was going to do any of this , which is brilliant . So I feel like it's only fair that I support them .
Speaker 2How did Selkirk find you in ?
Speaker 3Australia . Well , blame Jen Roman-Murthy for that one . So they have a lot of blame going around .
Speaker 3I didn't have a paddle , I just like borrowed whatever was going . And she put a Selkirk in my hand and I was like , hmm , I quite like the feel of this and so , yeah , any other paddle I then tried . I was like I like the feel of the Selkirk and then , being that they just reached out and said , look , we're happy to support you . And I wrote back and said , but I'm not , I'm not . I had at that point in 2022 , I'm like I have no intention of ever coaching this . I have no intention . I'm just going to play it like I have no intention of doing all of that and then , a couple of years later , here , I am so anyway , and so what I love about selkirk for me is that they've just got a nice family vibe about them .
Speaker 3I just love their holistic approach . Um well , for me , as I said especially and you know I've had lots of other companies coming off of me more , but I like selkirk . I think that , yeah they , they showed me that they backed me even when I was no one to them , and I feel it's only fair that I now back them .
Speaker 1So that's very cool . That's great . We both love their pickleball shoes , so a little yeah . And you showed us that they even have Crocs , which we didn't know about . So I have to check that out and very cool .
Speaker 1So you have had quite a journey . I just can't get over the fact that you were such a natural at such a young age . You're coaching tennis at the age of 10 to make money to help support the coaching you're getting . And then you start this academy and then you just kind of land into pickleball and then you are sought after by Selkirk before anything , and then you start playing pro and then you start coaching and now you're coaching three teams . It's like whoa girl . So what are some of the life lessons that you can share with us ?
Life Lessons from the Court
Speaker 1Either lessons that you learned in life that you use on the court , or lessons that came to you while you were on the court that you use in life , that you use on the court , or lessons that came to you while you were on the court that you use in life yeah , I think , like I think the biggest one for me of what I watch and and also through myself when I was learning , is forgiveness .
Speaker 3you know , like when you miss a shot it's okay , like it's understanding that everyone is learning and everyone is coming through and it doesn't matter what level you're at , you're still learning . So it's whether that be forgiveness of your partner if they miss something which I've never had a problem at .
Speaker 3I like someone to blame . It's great you missed it , but forgiveness of yourself , I think , is the biggest thing , and I find that that a lot , even in the pro level . You know they're so upset with themselves if they miss a ball and you're like guys , you know what percentage do you have to win to win , and they're like and that I'm like 51 . They're like is that it ? I'm like 51 is all you need to win . You don't .
Speaker 3And it's not about the winning of the 51 , it's about how you deal with the 49 . You're not winning , that's all it's to do with . Right , if you can get over your 49 of like I missed that shot , then you're going to get to 51 or more and that's okay , but you only need 51 . So I think forgiveness is is one thing that's really highlighted to me . Um , and yeah , I think that having a mental , a headstrong attitude , as I mentioned earlier , with this is really important , because pickleball is something that can change very quickly in terms of uh scores and in terms of like you know , you think you've hit a winner and the ball comes back , and you think you've hit another winner and it comes back again . So it's no quick way to win a point often , you know it's not like you know , win a point on a serve and a return .
Speaker 3That rarely happens , right , it's all to do with how you mentally stay in the game .
Speaker 1Both of those forgiveness and staying in the game with your mental balance is for life and for pickleball both .
Speaker 3It's for everything , isn't it ? We're always going to have ups and downs and it's how we ride those waves , or whether we choose to . You know , like a lot of people sometimes do ride the wave . If we can just keep level and calm and understand that we take the good with the bad and just play . Even in life , you never know what can happen , so it's got to hang in there .
Speaker 1Stay on the court .
Speaker 3Stay on the court and see where you go . But pressure does funny things to people , like when I discussed what happened with the time games , like you know , they say to me well , you know , I've just got to concentrate , coco , and I'm like , okay , tell me what that means to you . And they're like what do you mean ? And I'm like , well , how do you concentrate ? Like , we all say it , I've got to concentrate , I've got to focus , I've got to lock in . Well , say it , I've got to concentrate , I've got to focus , I've got to lock in . Well , that's going to mean something different for me than it does for you . Like , I'm going to have my little way of doing it and you're going to have your little way of doing it , telling yourself to focus and not miss the ball . It's not helpful , it just adds pressure .
Speaker 3So and especially the younger generation . They're not coping with pressure . So if you add more pressure by saying , well , don't miss it , that's not helpful . So breathe , breathe . You know , just try and exhale as you hit the ball . It's very difficult to be tense at while you're exhaling not impossible , but close to it . So focus on something different that doesn't entail you pressuring yourself to do better yeah , love it so do you ?
Speaker 1do you do clinics all over the world ? I mean , can people hire you to ?
Speaker 3uh , coach , I'm happy to come over to us if someone want to just pay me , and I'll just pop over there . We'd love that . We'd love that .
Speaker 3Yes , so I'm off to the UK end of July . I'm going to do some clinics with Sam Basford , one of the awesome coaches there in England , and we're going to do some clinics . We're going to play the English Open together and , yeah , so we're going to do that . I go to New Zealand quite a bit open to becoming . I spoke to Rob Cassidy and Michelle Esquival and I'll probably try and come to the US at some point and do some clinics there as well , and with Wes if you can ever nail that man down , he's everywhere he is everywhere .
Speaker 1Yes , I do clinics all around , and how can people find you , to follow you
Future Plans and Closing Thoughts
Speaker 1and reach ?
Speaker 3out to you . Socials is just coco lococo 002 on either facebook or insta .
Speaker 1So not too many coco lococo , so can probably find you just with your name . Well , we're in seattle and we can't wait to meet you in person . Maybe we'll come to australia . That would be pretty awesome too right , he's a great place .
Speaker 3Have you guys been here ?
Speaker 1I have I loved it where did you ? Go . I was just in in sydney and en route to new zealand but then decided , okay , I'm coming back there sometime to spend lots of time , because it was just . I had the same feeling of the hospitality like we were talking about in India just really lovely , lovely people and beautiful beautiful place .
Speaker 3Australia is very . Yeah , we are very like , we're all mates , you know . I know , even like in the US , you have like big weekend pickleball clinics , you know , and they try and start that here . But the problem is is that they all want to go to the pub at the end of four hours . They don't want to no , no , no , like we need a break . So you're like all right guys , off you go , or they want to go on the beach or something . So yeah we're a little bit we're slightly different in Australia .
Speaker 1I was on a tour once in Vietnam and the Aussies all were cracking their beers at 8 o'clock in the morning . That's representation . Listen up to the court . I could be playing better .
Speaker 3Yeah , it's a very different lifestyle in Australia . We're not as intent intent , but when we compete we can , oh yeah oh yeah but yeah , if it's like you know , it's good balance weekend it's 8 am , drinks , heck .
Speaker 1Yeah , life balance , you know , yeah , oh , coco , thank you . This has really been fun to chat with you and can't wait to see you stateside and we'll be following you online in your tournaments and congratulations , with all your coaching and just being sought after , it's like you don't even need to do anything . You just be you and people find you . I love that .
Speaker 3Yeah , I think if we're just nice to everyone , everyone , you know , everyone gets along , as I said . So everyone's mates off court and on court , and yeah , when we're there we compete , but when we're off court we'll uh , we're all good mates . So that's what it's about that's awesome .
Speaker 1Thank you so much , and thank you everybody . Oh my gosh , australia . Let's all go to australia and get some coaching .
Speaker 3We'll send you down to the surf . You can learn how to surf .
Speaker 4I love that idea never even tried I'm gonna try it there in australia .
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