Speaker 1: 0:00

Hi, I'm Shelly Maurer and I'm Cher Emrick.

Speaker 2: 0:03

Welcome to Life Lessons from Pickleball, where we engage with pickleball players from around the world about life on and off the court.

Speaker 1: 0:12

Thanks for joining us. Welcome everyone to Life. Lessons from Pickleball. So glad you're joining us today. And for those of you who are watching the show on YouTube, you will notice that Shelly is wearing a serious neck brace because she had a serious fall down a mountain while she was hiking in Switzerland. But fortunately, Shelly, you're doing well.

Speaker 3: 0:38

Yeah, I'm healing really well and this is going to come off soon.

Speaker 1: 0:41

Awesome, Awesome. And here's another thrill that we have. We have as our guest Joe Ganascoli, whom you know and love from his portrayal as Vito Spatafor on HBO's the Sopranos.

Speaker 3: 0:58

Hey, beyond the screen, Joe. You're a trained chef and the author of the culinary crime novel A Meal to Die For.

Speaker 1: 1:07

And these days you're actually bringing people together through food stories and, believe it or not, pickleball as a part of a broader wellness journey.

Speaker 3: 1:17

Joe, we can't thank you enough for being on our show and we're so excited to have you here today. So, to kick us off, tell us about your path from working in New York kitchens to the Sopranos.

Speaker 4: 1:28

Well, first of all, thank you for having me Pleasure to meet you. Sorry about your little misfortune. Thank you, you know, fell down a mountain. It's quite a tumble.

Speaker 2: 1:39

Yeah, it was a tumble.

Speaker 4: 1:42

Okay, so let me see if I can condense this in nine seconds. I'm from Brooklyn, new York. Self-taught chef Was in college, briefly St John's, and figured out quickly that wasn't for me and somehow I wound up in a French kitchen in Manhattan where I started doing prep and worked my way up to the kitchen and like most restaurant people, you bounce around because I was young and going out at night, coming in you know, being 20 years old, in Manhattan the shift doesn't just end so bounced around from kitchen to kitchen, learning, and I didn't mind that because I was trying to learn as much as possible and see as much, and so on. I had a chance to go to culinary school but I wanted to work and you know, someone said you can go to school or you can just absorb everything that you where you work and and do it firsthand. So that's what I decided to do and worked in a couple of restaurants and then had an opportunity to go to New Orleans where I lived for three and a half years and I come home. So I was about 21 to about 24.

Speaker 4: 3:12

And then I came home and got my first chef's job, did that again a couple of years, bounced around again. You know, like baseball managers, you're hired to be fired. You know, I was working in a restaurant in manhattan and a waiter said you know, I have my own theater company, um, and you'd be right for this role that we're casting. Would you want to come? And was way off Broadway. I said you know, this was that was kind of fun. What should I do? And he said well, maybe you want to go study with my teacher.

Speaker 4: 3:55

And so I did that again. I'm not a big fan of, you know, doing things by the book, but I enjoyed watching this teacher teach because he he really had a very unique way of teaching and I enjoyed watching him teach, but really not what he was teaching. So I did that for about a year. I got out of the restaurant business. I was selling ice cream from a cart, living the bohemian life. I was tired of being broke and I stopped the class, got back in the restaurant business and opened the restaurant with a couple of guys, which was very successful, got into a bad, degenerate gambling habit and 1990, lost $60,000. One Sunday, three games.

Speaker 1: 4:44

Whoa.

Speaker 4: 4:46

Oh, my yeah.

Speaker 3: 4:54

So you know when I go, I go.

Speaker 4: 4:55

You go big. Yes, I did, and it was the last game of the year and we call that sending it in. And I sent it in. And we call that sending it in and I sent it in and by 10.30 Sunday night my friends were looking at me and I was in the restaurant watching the games in the restaurant. They said you look sick, are you okay? And I was like pretty much pale and I'm thinking I just lost $60,000.

Speaker 4: 5:23

Jeez pale and I'm thinking I just lost $60,000 and I said I got to pay this, get out of the restaurant and get out of New York, because you know it was just saying so. I paid off my debt. I paid my debt. I was either going to go to Italy or I spoke to my friend that first said you know, do you want to come audition? And he was a serious actor living in LA and he said it was house sitting in some producer's house and he said you could come here and we'll figure it out. And that's what I did and that's how I got my start in Los Angeles. It's obviously more to the story, but I just gave a little brief background about my cooking, sort of Awesome.

Speaker 1: 6:15

And how long were you in LA before you got the Sopranos gig?

Speaker 4: 6:20

I was there for about four years, 91 to about 94. I was during the OJ trial but I was there for about three and a half four years. I worked in restaurants while I was there. My first movie I did was with a lot of big names. The movie didn't do well but it was my first role and Benicio Del Toro was in it and he found me working in this restaurant. He said I'm about to shoot this film.

Speaker 4: 6:49

I wrote and I want you to be the lead and so I did that, stayed friends with Benicio, moved back to New York, got me in two films back in New York and the casting directors were George M Walken and Sheila Jaffe from Sopranos and they wanted to meet me because they said you know you're in our movies. We don't even know who you are because I went right to the director and they asked me if I had an agent. I said no. They said well, keep in touch with us every few months and if you're right, something we'll bring in. And I did that and they said we're doing this show. Now I have to stop there. I'm hoping most of your fans know Soprano fans know I play two different roles. The first. So they said we have this scene in a bakery. You know, you had some lines and my name was Gino. You know, one day some lines, and, and, and my name was Gino. You know, one day shoot a couple hours and I thought that was it, and for some reason they brought me back as Vito.

Speaker 1: 7:53

We know why.

Speaker 4: 7:56

For some reason. Well, I don't know if they they saw talent in the three lines that I had.

Speaker 4: 8:02

I think, they did Probably. So they brought me back as Vito and that was the season two and then season three. The show had really blown up and we were part of something spectacular and I was sort of a background character. You know lines here and there. I got to kill Jackie Jr at the season three, and it was during season four. Let me explain this that I wanted to learn French cooking because Italian I knew, growing up Italian, and I wanted to broaden my repertoire. And again, playing an Italian gangster or mobster growing up in Brooklyn is sort of easy. It's not much of a challenge and I wanted to prove I could act to myself for my castmates. So the name of the book was called Murder Machine True story about a guy from Brooklyn. He had a bar in Brooklyn. He lived in Long Island, where I am now, and it was called the Gemini Lounge and they were responsible for about 75 murders.

Speaker 4: 8:57

Yikes One of the guys in his crew was gay, and the light bulb went off in my head and so I brought it to the attention of one of the writers and I said listen, I'm reading this book. It's a true story and I think it'd be something interesting, something you don't see, and I'd be willing to do it awesome and so that's how the whole uh Vito storyline came to be.

Speaker 4: 9:25

Awesome, I did not know that, that you had been the brain behind that, and David Chase had said it's the only suggestion he's taken from an actor that he used.

Speaker 4: 9:36

And that changed my life. But I also worked in a gay restaurant In New Orleans the waiters were mostly gay and in Manhattan the waiters were mostly gay, so I never had a problem with it. You know, playing a gay character For me it was acting and you know a lot of guys couldn't Me. I'm a let live kind of guy live and let live kind of guy. So I suggested it and didn't hear anything for about a year and a half until they decided to do it. And it's not what I had in mind, the way they portrayed it, but I'm glad that they did it that way. It made Vito a lot more sympathetic character.

Speaker 1: 10:24

And that's pretty much the edited version of my story Wow, wow, wow, wow.

Speaker 3: 10:27

So how did playing Vito really impact you personally?

Speaker 4: 10:32

So an interesting story Beginning season five and they came in and said they were about to shoot a scene. I forget where it was, but they said, hey, we got a little line change here. Paulie Walnuts is going to say, joe, where the fuck is my Tupperware? And you're going to say, take it easy, my wife's cleaning it, you'll get it. And I said to myself I got a wife now. It could be nothing, could be something. But I didn't say anything. And during the course of season five, one of the actors got drunk and left the script in a cab and they freaked out because everything was top secret.

Speaker 4: 11:15

You know, there was paparazzi all around and they saw the actors on the street new actors and trying to figure stuff out and taking pictures, always looking for, like you know, what was going on. So, uh, they stopped giving us the scripts. So the crew got the scripts first because they had to prepare for the next episode. And, um, we all had our little mole and my guy was like a props guy. I'd say what's going on next episode? Am I getting killed? That was always the first question. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 4: 11:46

And then you'd say, uh, am I in it? And he'd say, yes, you're in it, you're not in it. So on and so forth. So one time I asked him, I said what's going on? He goes you're good, you're fine. And by then I was like all right, I'll read it. At the read-through, which is where all the actors get together in a room, you read the script and then the producers and the writers and the director want to make changes, to hear the actors say the words. And he says, oh, I forgot to tell you, you're going to be giving a guy oral. And I went what Excuse?

Speaker 1: 12:17

me.

Speaker 4: 12:19

And I went, a couple of things started going through my mind. I was like holy shit, they're doing it. And the second thing is like it's not what I really had in mind. And my third thing was my friends are going to like break balls forever and all that was going through my mind and I'm like whoa man what did I do here?

Speaker 4: 12:40

And I remember getting to the studio and everybody's downstairs waiting to go upstairs to read the script. And Jimmy came over to me Gandolfini, rest in peace and said listen, if you don't feel comfortable doing this, you don't have to do it. And I said, you know, jim, I kind of suggested it and you know it's not what I had in mind, but I don't want to just do it and forget about it. So we did it and they said well, that's all we're going to see this year. There's seen with the security guard, but next year, be ready, it's going to be a big year for you. And, um, I did, and uh, that changed my life.

Speaker 1: 13:20

And so here we are. Yeah, that was your season six, right?

Speaker 4: 13:24

Season six Season six, the beginning of season six, yeah.

Speaker 1: 13:28

So fortunately these days that's not so unusual anymore to have gay characters and all.

Speaker 4: 13:37

I was the groundbreaker.

Speaker 1: 13:39

You opened the door in many ways and so good on you, and so you. One of your questions was always you know, am I in it, Am I in the scene? And the other one is am I getting killed? So when you found out, yeah, you're getting killed, what was that like?

Speaker 4: 13:56

You know, I knew I was teetering. I mean, that's rough to be in. The guy from the book wasn't killed for being gay because he was valuable to them. You know he chopped up bodies in his bathtub and drained the blood and that's how they got rid of bodies.

Speaker 1: 14:14

God, Joe, you say it so casually. I know it's just like oh.

Speaker 4: 14:22

Normal stuff, you know from Brooklyn and New York. But they killed this guy in Jersey for being gay. Now, usually it's always about money.

Speaker 1: 14:35

Always about money. It's always about money.

Speaker 4: 14:36

Either someone wants about money it's always about money Either someone wants his position and they use that for an excuse to take over his business, no matter what it is, or nobody will do business with them. Because they got a gay guy, which was Tony's dilemma. He wanted to let me live, doesn't matter, but then nobody wanted to do business with him. You know. So I knew I. You know season six. There were, I think, 11 episodes. I was in nine of them and if I wasn't in them they were talking to me. So by the time I found out, you know, I was pretty much into season six and you know I had a really good run.

Speaker 4: 15:15

I went from small scene in the bakery to 39 episodes. The whole season, pretty much was dedicated to my character. And so I went into David and tried to talk to him and gave him all the reasons I was trying to make it to the end. I knew that there were going to be two parts of season six and I tried to make it to the next season. So I gave him all these reasons why I thought my character should live this and that and he let me talk, which seemed like I was talking I don't know for a long time, but probably it was two minutes. He just stared at me stoically and then, when I was done, he just said you're going.

Speaker 3: 15:54

Oh, wow so.

Speaker 4: 15:59

I thank them for you know the opportunity and you know so on, and you know it's a prolific character and the greatest show ever. So I've been blessed, yes, but I also felt that you know, I made my own breaks, but maybe those breaks were part of being blessed. I don't know. The whole part of doing that again was like cooking. Playing a mobster is easy. Where I grew up, playing a gay guy was a challenge. Again, I wanted to show that I could act the cast that I could act people out there, that I could act, and that's what happened.

Speaker 1: 16:42

Have you done more acting since then?

Speaker 4: 16:44

I did some stuff then, not as much as I had hoped. But my agent submits me we know Joe and he did a great job and I get auditions, but again, as long as I could make money you know, support my family it got me to write a cookbook novel. I mean, if things happen happens Right now we're in discussions to turn my book into a show.

Speaker 4: 17:08

Ah yeah, which is great. The book is a cookbook novel. It's loosely based on my life as a chef. I wanted to be a serious chef but had a gambling problem.

Speaker 2: 17:20

Can I?

Speaker 4: 17:20

write about what you know and it's called Meals to Die For and it's about mobsters, what they like to eat, where they ate, and if they have a particular dish, I'll cook that dish, but maybe with a little dip. I always try to see if I see something on TV or read it, or read it or see it on a menu or go to a restaurant, I try to change it around and sort of make it unique in my own. So that's what I'll do with a dish and but we're going to do something else with a little twist to make it fun. Because I've seen all the mob shows. Those are boring. I've seen all cooking shows those are boring, but what I want to do with it. And we shot a great demo reel, or sizzle reel, what they call it, so we could get it to studios, which we're doing right now, after the summer is finally over Nice. It makes it fun and interesting. You know different over.

Speaker 1: 18:19

It makes it fun and interesting. You know different Brilliant I'm happy to hear that that's in the works for you and you bring what like 16 people together for dinner. People hire you, they come together and have a soprano style dinner and you share your stories. Is that what you're doing now as well?

Speaker 4: 18:34

Well, it's a minimum of 16. Minimum of 16? Minimum of 16. I do up to 50.

Speaker 3: 18:40

Oh, wow.

Speaker 4: 18:41

Yeah, and I come to their home First I say, hey, I heard about your cooking. It's all word of mouth.

Speaker 2: 18:49

And.

Speaker 4: 18:49

I give them my menus. It's all done by email and once they say, hey, this is great, they have this date available, which you know not always available. But I do the shopping and they pay for the food. They pay for my assistant and if it's over 20, two assistants, I get there. About one guests get there about 4.30. I make about 20 different appetizers, a pasta course and then could be one or two entrees, depending on the menu and um, yeah, but they're about 10 11 hours. Um, the one I just did this past saturday was in plymouth meeting pennsylvania, for it's about 125 miles from my house, but they were such rabid fans it was a lot of fun and I've had them like a lot of parties with all the guests.

Speaker 4: 19:39

They all dressed as you know some of the characters.

Speaker 3: 19:42

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2: 19:42

Like.

Speaker 4: 19:43

Melfi yeah.

Speaker 4: 19:44

And a lot of Adrianas, a lot of Carmelas. You know a couple of Uncle Juniors Pauly, walnuts, chrissy you know a couple of comments, chrissy and Adriana, and I'll tell my story. I'll do Q&A with everyone, take pictures with everyone, and I've done over 100 of them now. They love the food. The food is serious, and so people come over, they try to talk to me. I'm in the kitchen and I go because you throw me off. You know, save your questions, we're gonna have plenty of time for that. I make sure that the food comes out first and then I don't want to rush him and then, in between pasta and entree, I'll do my story, do a q a. Uh, yeah, so they've been wildly successful. I've done them in florida, where they flew me and my assistants in, but I usually bring all my utensils, pots, pans, so on. Wow, my biggest thing is what kind of kitchen am I walking into? That's the thing.

Speaker 2: 20:49

And it works.

Speaker 1: 20:50

What a hoot.

Speaker 4: 20:51

What a fun thing you're doing.

Speaker 1: 20:54

Yeah, you're going to have to do a lot of them now because you're going to be too busy once your project gets picked up. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 21:02

I think 100% my pickleball may suffer. That was my next question. How did you get introduced to pickleball?

Speaker 4: 21:09

In Brooklyn. I played hockey and baseball and then I got into paddleball, and then I got into racquetball, which I still play on weekends, and I sort of poo-pooed pickleball. Someone had you know a girl had mentioned it to me. She says, oh, you play pickleball. I go I'm not ready to retire yet to Florida, I'm good. And I was in the gym and I was walking and these ladies said, oh, we only have three people, I don't think we'll be able to play. And I said you need a fourth outplay.

Speaker 4: 21:41

And I figured all right, I'll just smack the ball around and see what it's like. They were older, they weren't very good, the court was terrible and that. But I started doing things with the ball and you know I was like I was putting a spin on it. Immediately I felt bad because they couldn't do it, but I was like this is kind of interesting. You need, you know, obviously, skill and when I start something, when I do something, I get like obsessed and so I immediately called up my friend who owns Franklin Sports and I said just send me the top of your line paddle. He did it in a bag and quickly I saw that. You know you had to go to a different paddle, but it was good to start.

Speaker 4: 22:26

I started again being you want to be self-taught, watching videos, reading, playing. I was playing twice a day. You know, in the beginning people wait for a game and you want to be able to hold up with them. You know, if you get and lose 10, 11-1, 11-2, and people have to wait, put their paddle down, it could be a little frustrating for them and I, you know, I sensed that and I was like I got to get better quick. So it took me a while to hold my own and now I just feel pretty confident. The 4.0s I have probably a problem with, but like 3.5, 3 to 3.5, I could pretty much handle myself. Nice, and I've lost 80 pounds doing it, you know.

Speaker 1: 23:15

But you also lost a lot of weight during the show, right, and then you also lost more with pickleball.

Speaker 4: 23:22

Yeah, I lost a lot. So I was. So I don't know if you remember how I walked. So I was very athletic and always played. You know, when I started being a chef I didn't have much time for the gym because I was, you know, 9 am to like 11, 12 at night and I just let myself go. And then I had developed bad hips. You know from hockey, hereditary. You saw the way I walked on the show as soon as they killed me. I had double hip replacement that day, same day.

Speaker 3: 23:51

Whoa, whoa.

Speaker 4: 23:53

And once they were healed, I took up golf, which I can now do, because you got to twist and walk and I walked. I walked the course and I try not to eat after 2 o'clock, so that's what I do. I have about 40 pounds that I want to knock off, like if we ever get a start date. Like Fox Nation has the show right now and they really like it and I'm, you know, waiting for an answer and they're trying to make it work, but we also go to all the other networks too. So I want to knock off the last 40 before I ever start filming.

Speaker 1: 24:30

Brilliant. Well, pickleball is a good way to do it, isn't it?

Speaker 4: 24:34

Yeah, pickleball is the you know. So I do it after golf. I tail fit seven, then get in the car, go to pickleball quarter to nine. I get there about nine and play at about 1030. I don't know by 11, 1130, I'm like you know, a little shot, maybe a little nap, maybe a little pool time get a little sun.

Speaker 4: 24:58

But I love the pickleball because it is. You know, it's a power game, finesse game and it's strategic when you have to think about it. And same thing with golf. You know, when you're thinking about your swing and everything that you're doing, there's about 10 different things to think about. But when you don't have to think about it and just do it the same way all the time and it's a beautiful shot and hit it the way you're supposed to. I'm not there yet with pickleball. Like I still haven't learned my lesson about ball below the net, hitting it hard. It's going to hit the net instead of just dropping it. So I'm learning. But I played with a banger paddle and I was just in Pickle Con in Kansas City, which was great, and this guy had on his handle a trigger, that little rubber thing.

Speaker 3: 25:47

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 25:48

It's called the trigger and I got it and I actually I like it a lot, so it's added to my game. Yeah, I don't know what it is. What is it? No, I wish I had my paddle to the car. It's a little piece. It's got a band, it's got a little round rubber thing. You slide up the handle and then it's got a little rubber thing sticking out. So it's kind of like holding a trigger, you know, or you finger on the trigger and how does that help you know?

Speaker 2: 26:18

or your finger on the trigger?

Speaker 4: 26:20

And how does that help? It just gives you a little more control, because I, you know, I kind of like turn my wrist over you know. I snap you know, I like to you know, get that top spin.

Speaker 1: 26:36

So it helps with the grip.

Speaker 4: 26:38

Yeah, it helps with the grip. Oh, fascinating, I've never heard of that. I also, even in racquetball, I put my pinky underneath the butt of the paddle.

Speaker 1: 26:50

At the very bottom.

Speaker 4: 26:51

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 26:52

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 26:52

Wrap it underneath. Yeah, I don't hold like four fingers on the paddle, so I don't know why I do that. I would probably do it in baseball too, with a bat.

Speaker 2: 27:04

I would do it. Yeah, I'm not sure.

Speaker 4: 27:06

But yeah, so I got that from. You know, Pickle Con, it was a good show, I learned, you know I met a lot of vendors and, you know, looked at a lot of different bags. I'm a big bad guy and every time I get a new bag I gotta remember like where everything is again. But I, you know. So that's what, that's what I uh. I like there's not a lot of things you could do, like in golf. There's a million things. They have million gadgets, bags, clubs so on in pickleball.

Speaker 4: 27:36

It's bull. Paddle bag, pretty shoes and that's it, that's it.

Speaker 1: 27:43

So you have had an amazing life, my friend and really appreciate you sharing your story Very moving. Especially, everybody feels like we know you because I've been watching you and especially your characters, and you really are an amazing actor. I have to say that, and so I'm really hoping that your project comes through. So in your life, in acting and Sopranos or any of your other acting, or as a chef, or as an author, or on the pickleball court, have you gleaned some life lessons that you can share with us.

Speaker 4: 28:16

I guess in just everyday life I mean it could be in the restaurant business, pickleball, sports Just be a good person and you know, good things happen to good people is what I try to live by. And I have a 16-year-old daughter. But while she was growing up I was told I taught her the keys to life and I made her repeat it. She hates doing it, but back then she didn't mind, but now she likes it. I say what are the keys to life? And it was this Always smile, always be courteous and don't be late.

Speaker 1: 28:55

I love it.

Speaker 3: 28:57

It's a great key.

Speaker 4: 28:59

So I tried to teach. She just got her first job. I said said, vip, you got to get 10 minutes there before your shift start, so you don't walk in. You know so 10 minutes ago. So always smile, always be courteous, don't be late that is cute great that one is a.

Speaker 4: 29:15

Those are keepers I will say that you know, when I'm playing women, lots of times I'll take it easy. I won't give the hard serve to women and when I take it easy on them I wind up losing the game to them because I underestimate them and they're really good. I play with a lot of good women players and I keep saying why do you let up?

Speaker 2: 29:45

You know, I hate losing.

Speaker 4: 29:47

And that, and you know trying not to curse is one of my two things I'm working on.

Speaker 1: 29:54

The biggest challenge on the court is to not curse.

Speaker 4: 29:58

Oh, that's so cool. Now let me ask you so you're obviously, are you like lifelong friends?

Speaker 1: 30:05

No, we actually met on the pickleball court two and a half years ago. Right yeah, our very first lesson.

Speaker 1: 30:12

Yeah, yeah, very first pickleball lesson, yeah, and we just saw how it was changing our lives and we knew it was changing so many people's lives all around the world and we just got this hey, what if we got to talk to people like Joe about how their lives have been influenced and what are their life stories? And so we've talked with people from many countries all around the world and amazing stories. Everybody has an amazing life story and then Pickleball has been a part of it.

Speaker 4: 30:46

Well, when I look back at it, I mean I have had a pretty interesting life, you know, living and working in restaurants. You meet a lot of people working and living in New Orleans, los Angeles, being on this show, there's so many fans, so many people come up to me. I always ask them what they do. Los Angeles, being on this show, there's so many fans, so many people come up to me. I always ask them what they do. You know, because I'm involved in a lot of things. As a matter of fact, I kind of I'm always thinking you know, I have an NFL licensed product I have I'm working on an invention for pickleball and, yeah, I'm waiting for the prototype to come from China and then eventually I'll make it here in the US. But I think it might be good because I been showing the guys and they think it's a great idea.

Speaker 3: 31:32

So now you got our curiosity.

Speaker 4: 31:37

I think it's you gotta keep us in the loop, joe. I certainly will well. Do you follow me on Instagram or Facebook.

Speaker 1: 31:45

Instagram yeah, we have.

Speaker 3: 31:45

Facebook yes, and Instagram Instagram. Facebook Follow me yeah.

Speaker 1: 31:49

In fact, I wanted to ask you how do people find you online?

Speaker 4: 31:55

So what's your If you put in Beo Sopranos Instagram or Facebook it'll come up my name. Is not the easiest to spell my last name, but yeah, so that's the best way and you can just see the spelling in Vito. Sopranos Facebook, instagram. You'll see pictures of my last party that the guy posted, which was very nice.

Speaker 1: 32:16

Sweet.

Speaker 4: 32:17

And all the appetizers. Actually he had pretty much everything.

Speaker 2: 32:23

Yeah, so.

Speaker 4: 32:24

I haven't posted anything about the show yet because you know I don't want to put it out there.

Speaker 1: 32:28

We got the scoop, shelly, we got the scoop about the show. Yeah.

Speaker 4: 32:33

You know, shelly, I'm trying to think of an actress that you'd so remind me of, and I did the movie with her. Her and um wasn't on my phone. It's called never talk to strangers. I shot up in toronto and it was with antonio benderis is his name, right yeah and she was the female lead. I can't remember her name, but I look at you and I'm saying, wow, that's her.

Speaker 1: 33:03

I'm going to go look it up. Oh, we'll have to. Yeah, we're going to have to look that up. You also, Shelly, remind me of the actress on the TV show Mom Anna Faris, or something like that you remind me, anna Faris.

Speaker 1: 33:17

Joe, this has been so amazing. We are really thrilled that you took the time. Can't wait for your new project. We will be following you with your dinners and everything else, and you'll probably write another book. But anyway, thank you so much for being on the show. It was my pleasure. Thank you all I mean. What a treat.

Speaker 3: 33:38

Edo in person.

Speaker 1: 33:41

Thank you all for joining us and we look forward to a new conversation next week. Bye, bye.

Speaker 2: 33:47

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Speaker 1: 34:01

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Speaker 2: 34:13

Thanks, so much Hope to see you on the court.